Forum Statistics & Comparisons - Page 4 - OzChess

**Iconoclast** · 11-22-2009, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

My using 6 was based on same times on the days 13th- 19th November but that is wrong since in your case here on Ozchess you are counting full days via the admin stats panel so it is 7 days, not 6 days. So your posts per day figure for the 13th - 19th November is 225/7 = 32.14.

[What is that dog whining about]

**Iconoclast** · 11-22-2009, 08:44 AM

At Chess Chat there have been 60 banning notices in the last 60 weeks.

By their deeds you will know them.

**Just2Good** · 11-22-2009, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

How many times have i warned you and kb , if you kill the energy ,you kill the forum ?

Why are you giving Waldo and Roldo good advice Axiom?

**antichrist** · 11-27-2009, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

At Chess Chat there have been 60 banning notices in the last 60 weeks.

By their deeds you will know them.

Are you suggesting a quota of one-a-day? Moz is the expert on that!

**Just2Good** · 11-28-2009, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

5:10pm Friday 13th to 6:50pm Friday the 20th is actually 7days 1 hour 40 minutes, NOT 8 days.
475/7 = 67.86

Actually 225/7 = 32.14
However 13th Nov till the 19th Nov is 6 days not 7.
So it is 225/6 = 37.5

So 67.8 for CC versus 37.5 for OzChess (by your calculations).

Considering one of your fellow moderator once stated that he would eat his shirt (or words to that effect) if OzChess ever had even 10% of CC's numbers, the fact we are at above 55% (based on this random weekly snapshot) means I guess he should eat his pants and socks as well!

Also, as CC has previously held ppd numbers around 100 ppd, the drop and corresponding increase on OzChess likely mean we have simply stolen CC's thunder (and posters

)

**Just2Good** · 11-28-2009, 06:17 PM

I just noticed this disingenuous post by Kevin on CC which tries to humbugs our forum's continued and impressive growth.

Originally Posted by Kevin

... giving them a market share (TB/(TB+CC)) of 29% which is about the same as they had in September and slightly more than in August and October.

TB does not stand for Thomas Bishop (a valued member of our forum), rather it stands for OzChess. Why Kevin won't simply use Oz and CC is perplexing, but I guess that's just Kevin trying to make things more complicated than they really are.

In any event, the calculation of OzChess / (OzChess + CC) giving OzChess 29% of overal market share, and leaving 71% with CC is only half the story.

If the calculation is (OzChess / Chess Chat X 100) than we find we are approximately 40 to 50% of their size.

Certainly that more alarming statics did not escape Kevin, he just decided not to report on it.

**Iconoclast** · 11-28-2009, 07:35 PM

TB?
= Terrific Blokes
or
= Total Bastards

It does not really matter. The fact that it is nothing like Oz/OC/them/Overthere/competition/BB#2, shows him to be a frightened little boy with fewer friends every year. Let us hope he does not hit us with his ruler.

**Just2Good** · 11-29-2009, 06:51 AM

Reality seems to be hitting CC with a metal ruler.

Basic lesson for them to learn is this:

Lousy Moderating / Lack of Investment for Years / Dwindling Membership Base / Too Many Loud Mouths

= Declining Fortunes.

**Just2Good** · 11-29-2009, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

If the calculation is (OzChess / Chess Chat X 100) than we find we are approximately 40 to 50% of their size.

I see Kevin is now concurring with what I stated above:

Originally Posted by Kevin

I wrote "their figure is actually only 41.46% of ours".

But more interesting are the musings by Cameron and Boris:

Originally Posted by Cameron

A 29% share is impressive. Wonder what happens if you remove the top 5 posters from each site though.

Its actually 41%, as per Kevin's quote above. But I agree, even 29% would be a great result.

Originally Posted by Boris

I'm certain that would have a bigger effect on the TB since its poster base is smaller.

Actually, this is incorrect.

Chess Chat's top five posters have a post per day average of above 9. So if we constrast this to OzChess where I have the highest post per day rate of 4.19, we would find that it would affect Chess Chat far more than OzChess, with a loss of at least 50 posts per day for Chess Chat - and 20 at the most for OzChess.

What I would like to see is how many separate posters made a contribution (even one post) within the last month, as this would provide a guide to how big each forum's poster base is. I am no longer prepared to accept that Chess Chat has the bigger poster base.

**Just2Good** · 11-29-2009, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

What I would like to see is how many separate posters made a contribution (even one post) within the last month, as this would provide a guide to how big each forum's poster base is. I am no longer prepared to accept that Chess Chat has the bigger poster base.

I just figured out a way to achieve this, on OzChess but not on Chess Chat.

As we have Cyb Advanced Forum Statistics, I simply changed the setting in more results for Top Posters to 65. In the last 30.3 days, a total of 62 different posters made at least one post on OzChess (there were 3 empty slots). I have left the results so CC staticians can verify.

This means our average monthly poster base is 62

I have my doubts whether Chess Chat's poster base this past month is as big as that.

**Just2Good** · 11-30-2009, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

there is another (and much simpler and more flexible) way of checking...

If this is true, for the first time ever you will know something about vBulletin that I don't. Not a bad accomplishment. Previously only Bill had a small edge over me in that department.

Now spill the beans. How?

**antichrist** · 12-01-2009, 10:30 PM

according to over there my Daffy Ducks made this board break a new record for daily posts - where is the thanks?

**Just2Good** · 12-01-2009, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by antichrist

according to over there my Daffy Ducks made this board break a new record for daily posts - where is the thanks?

Actually, your Daffy posts only added 24 posts to our record. We still would have had a record day without your contribution, but thanks for trying AC - You're a legend mate!

**Axiom** · 12-01-2009, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by antichrist

according to over there my Daffy Ducks made this board break a new record for daily posts - where is the thanks?

I would have just like to have seen a bit more of that creative spirit in those posts , the same joie de vivre that we have grown to know and love from the a/c.

**Just2Good** · 04-21-2010, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

In the last seven days the Ax + AC non-show (122 posts) has exceeded all other posters put together (106).

Its good to know Kevin is so diligently monitoring our post counts, something (presumably) he would not be doing if he did not feel threatened by this forum's growth.

He should also note that both posters mentioned have posts which were nominated for Post of the Month, and Axiom has won the award more than one!

Their loss in banning him has been OzChess' gain, but I suppose that can be said of many people KB/BG have permanently banned.

11-22-2009, 08:33 AM	#46 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos My using 6 was based on same times on the days 13th- 19th November but that is wrong since in your case here on Ozchess you are counting full days via the admin stats panel so it is 7 days, not 6 days. So your posts per day figure for the 13th - 19th November is 225/7 = 32.14. [What is that dog whining about] __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

11-22-2009, 08:44 AM	#47 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	At Chess Chat there have been 60 banning notices in the last 60 weeks. By their deeds you will know them. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

11-22-2009, 02:46 PM	#48 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Good Advice Originally Posted by Axiom How many times have i warned you and kb , if you kill the energy ,you kill the forum ? Why are you giving Waldo and Roldo good advice Axiom? __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

11-27-2009, 03:51 PM	#49 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,548	Originally Posted by Iconoclast At Chess Chat there have been 60 banning notices in the last 60 weeks. By their deeds you will know them. Are you suggesting a quota of one-a-day? Moz is the expert on that!

11-28-2009, 04:47 PM	#50 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	OzChess Growth = CC's Decline :) Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos 5:10pm Friday 13th to 6:50pm Friday the 20th is actually 7days 1 hour 40 minutes, NOT 8 days. 475/7 = 67.86 Actually 225/7 = 32.14 However 13th Nov till the 19th Nov is 6 days not 7. So it is 225/6 = 37.5 So 67.8 for CC versus 37.5 for OzChess (by your calculations). Considering one of your fellow moderator once stated that he would eat his shirt (or words to that effect) if OzChess ever had even 10% of CC's numbers, the fact we are at above 55% (based on this random weekly snapshot) means I guess he should eat his pants and socks as well! Also, as CC has previously held ppd numbers around 100 ppd, the drop and corresponding increase on OzChess likely mean we have simply stolen CC's thunder (and posters ) __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

11-28-2009, 06:17 PM	#51 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	I just noticed this disingenuous post by Kevin on CC which tries to humbugs our forum's continued and impressive growth. Originally Posted by Kevin ... giving them a market share (TB/(TB+CC)) of 29% which is about the same as they had in September and slightly more than in August and October. TB does not stand for Thomas Bishop (a valued member of our forum), rather it stands for OzChess. Why Kevin won't simply use Oz and CC is perplexing, but I guess that's just Kevin trying to make things more complicated than they really are. In any event, the calculation of OzChess / (OzChess + CC) giving OzChess 29% of overal market share, and leaving 71% with CC is only half the story. If the calculation is (OzChess / Chess Chat X 100) than we find we are approximately 40 to 50% of their size. Certainly that more alarming statics did not escape Kevin, he just decided not to report on it. __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

11-28-2009, 07:35 PM	#52 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	TB? = Terrific Blokes or = Total Bastards It does not really matter. The fact that it is nothing like Oz/OC/them/Overthere/competition/BB#2, shows him to be a frightened little boy with fewer friends every year. Let us hope he does not hit us with his ruler. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

11-29-2009, 06:51 AM	#53 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Reality seems to be hitting CC with a metal ruler. Basic lesson for them to learn is this: Lousy Moderating / Lack of Investment for Years / Dwindling Membership Base / Too Many Loud Mouths = Declining Fortunes. __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

11-29-2009, 07:03 AM	#54 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Kevin Agrees = We are above 40%! Originally Posted by Just2Good If the calculation is (OzChess / Chess Chat X 100) than we find we are approximately 40 to 50% of their size. I see Kevin is now concurring with what I stated above: Originally Posted by Kevin I wrote "their figure is actually only 41.46% of ours". But more interesting are the musings by Cameron and Boris: Originally Posted by Cameron A 29% share is impressive. Wonder what happens if you remove the top 5 posters from each site though. Its actually 41%, as per Kevin's quote above. But I agree, even 29% would be a great result. Originally Posted by Boris I'm certain that would have a bigger effect on the TB since its poster base is smaller. Actually, this is incorrect. Chess Chat's top five posters have a post per day average of above 9. So if we constrast this to OzChess where I have the highest post per day rate of 4.19, we would find that it would affect Chess Chat far more than OzChess, with a loss of at least 50 posts per day for Chess Chat - and 20 at the most for OzChess. What I would like to see is how many separate posters made a contribution (even one post) within the last month, as this would provide a guide to how big each forum's poster base is. I am no longer prepared to accept that Chess Chat has the bigger poster base. __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

11-29-2009, 06:09 PM	#55 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	OzChess Poster Base - Past 30 Days = 62 Posters! Originally Posted by Just2Good What I would like to see is how many separate posters made a contribution (even one post) within the last month, as this would provide a guide to how big each forum's poster base is. I am no longer prepared to accept that Chess Chat has the bigger poster base. I just figured out a way to achieve this, on OzChess but not on Chess Chat. As we have Cyb Advanced Forum Statistics, I simply changed the setting in more results for Top Posters to 65. In the last 30.3 days, a total of 62 different posters made at least one post on OzChess (there were 3 empty slots). I have left the results so CC staticians can verify. This means our average monthly poster base is 62 I have my doubts whether Chess Chat's poster base this past month is as big as that. __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

11-30-2009, 05:45 AM	#56 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Kevin there is another (and much simpler and more flexible) way of checking... If this is true, for the first time ever you will know something about vBulletin that I don't. Not a bad accomplishment. Previously only Bill had a small edge over me in that department. Now spill the beans. How? __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

12-01-2009, 10:30 PM	#57 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,548	according to over there my Daffy Ducks made this board break a new record for daily posts - where is the thanks?

12-01-2009, 10:33 PM	#58 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	AC Did His Best! Originally Posted by antichrist according to over there my Daffy Ducks made this board break a new record for daily posts - where is the thanks? Actually, your Daffy posts only added 24 posts to our record. We still would have had a record day without your contribution, but thanks for trying AC - You're a legend mate! __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

12-01-2009, 10:35 PM	#59 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	No Thanks Originally Posted by antichrist according to over there my Daffy Ducks made this board break a new record for daily posts - where is the thanks? I would have just like to have seen a bit more of that creative spirit in those posts , the same joie de vivre that we have grown to know and love from the a/c. __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

04-21-2010, 12:52 PM	#60 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Uh Oh!!! Originally Posted by Kevin In the last seven days the Ax + AC non-show (122 posts) has exceeded all other posters put together (106). Its good to know Kevin is so diligently monitoring our post counts, something (presumably) he would not be doing if he did not feel threatened by this forum's growth. He should also note that both posters mentioned have posts which were nominated for Post of the Month, and Axiom has won the award more than one! Their loss in banning him has been OzChess' gain, but I suppose that can be said of many people KB/BG have permanently banned. __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

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