Time Out For Members

[Iconoclast]

Originally Posted by MOZ

These allegations, together with your generalised smear, would leave the casual reader half-thinking that I have been lodging defamatory posts.

DEFO! Maybe you should do a BG&KB and threaten to ring your solicitor. But then again, I know you are classier than to stoop to such a base response.

Originally Posted by MOZ

Kevin has been unable to nominate a single post of mine that he finds objectionable.

it isn't about specific posts
(although it might have now become so, depending on what i find out re your moderation suggestions)

it's about willingly holding a stated position
(albeit without formal contract)
that places the onus on you to show/advise that position is not being and will not be used in a certain manner

[MOZ]

^
So, what is this shadowy 'certain manner'?

Originally Posted by MOZ

So, what is this shadowy 'certain manner'?

anything that a poster with normal functionality would be unable to do
and that becomes shared with others rather than simply noted for your own metrical interest

(although it might have now become so,

it didn't, strike that bit

Originally Posted by MOZ

Before we consign the Complaints records to the dustbin of history, can you just confirm that there have been two only claims of defo. registered (the two I mean are on the Open sticky).
That meter stands at 2?

i have registered many complaints re defamatory material with ao by email or pm previously
we have since seen:
* you argue for post-report as an alternative and encourage this as a submission mechanism
result: loss of that submission mechanism
* ao establish a new process for complaints
result: process abandoned for lack of support
i think i was the only one who actually used it
wonder if my complaint against firegoat will still be published!

so we are back where we are all along
there is no official complaints process
pm and email to the owner or to mods are as good as anything
and concerning those the meter stands at "several"

[Just2Good]

Originally Posted by MOZ

Before we consign the Complaints records to the dustbin of history, can you just confirm that there have been two only claims of defo. registered (the two I mean are on the Open sticky).
That meter stands at 2?

I honestly don't know and don't care enough to trawl through my inbox to find out. Most of Kevin's complaints and belly aches are so frivilous and trivial that I have a hard time paying attention every time he tugs at my sleave crying about something.

Originally Posted by lotlizard

so we are back where we are all along
there is no official complaints process

You've been told to try and resolve your differences with others amongst yourselves first, before trying to involve OzChess staff. On the only occasion you endeavoured to do this, you gave the recipient less than 24 hours to respond before crying in my shoulder. Simply enough, if you are unwilling to make a genuine effort to work out your excessively numerous (largely self imagined) problems with others like a mature and rational adult, then please stop wasting our time as we will be reluctant to intervene until you demonstrate good faith.

Best Regards,

AO

[Lurking Lucy]

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

Unlike Kevin I am not pedantic enough to go to the swamp and track down what may or may not have been said. Obviously there was some talk on CC about the issue generally. I don't think anyone would deny that.

If you were going to go to the trouble of making an "announcement" about what was said, being a lawyer surely you would've checked your facts to begin with? Or were you silly enough to rely on hearsay?

There's a difference between pedantry and attention to detail when quoting statistics...

[Just2Good]

Originally Posted by Lurking Lucy

If you were going to go to the trouble of making an "announcement" about what was said, being a lawyer surely you would've checked your facts to begin with? Or were you silly enough to rely on hearsay?

There's a difference between pedantry and attention to detail when quoting statistics...

Hello Kevin,

Using another hydra I see. Is that your plan once Firegoat7 bans you permanently? Perhaps you should take antichrist's advice and get a life. Perhaps you should seek full time employment in academia? Perhaps you should get a girlfriend and spend less time on chess forums generally? Perhaps you should do a number of things Kevin. Those are just some suggestions, I am not your guidance counsellor. But if you want my advice, and ask me politely, I will provide some for you.

Best Regards

AO

ps- It occurred to me that if Kar-thick were to learn that, due exclusively to your punitive actions, he just lost a poster with close to 6000 posts, he might not be overly happy with his moderation management team. Therefore, you better lift your game here or I might just enlighten him!

[Bill Gletsos]

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

Hello Kevin,

Using another hydra I see.

As far As I am aware Lucy isnt a hydra of Kevin's.

[Just2Good]

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

As far As I am aware Lucy isnt a hydra of Kevin's.

Hi Bill

www.dnstuff.com reveals Lurking Lucy's ip address to be located in Tasmania. So perhaps Kevin has stopped confiding in you about his hydras because you are being more civil now and he simply doesn't want to change his ways.

Best Regards,

AO

[Bill Gletsos]

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

Hi Bill

www.dnstuff.com reveals Lurking Lucy's ip address to be located in Tasmania.

There are other posters from Tasmania who are also ChessChat posters who would take you to task over your lack of attention to detail and the facts.

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

So perhaps Kevin has stopped confiding in you about his hydras because you are being more civil now and he simply doesn't want to change his ways.

I accept his word that he is not Lucy.

[Just2Good]

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

There are other posters from Tasmania who are also ChessChat posters who would take you to task over your lack of attention to detail and the facts.
I accept his word that he is not Lucy.

That is true, there are other Tasmanian posters. However, none of the other Tasmanian posters have an axe to grind. On top of that the same posting style that Kevin uses is being used by Lurking Lucy. Obviously one can never say with 100% certainty that poster X is also poster Y, its always a question of liklihoods, and in this case I think it is likely the same person.

Best

AO

[Bill Gletsos]

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

That is true, there are other Tasmanian posters. However, none of the other Tasmanian posters have an axe to grind.

Do not be so sure about that..
Maybe they do not have an axe to grind, but they quite likely have a desire to highlight your lack of detail and other inconsistencies on this site

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

On top of that the same posting style that Kevin uses is being used by Lurking Lucy.

Actually their last post looks more like my style than Kevin's.

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

Obviously one can never say with 100% certainty that poster X is also poster Y, its always a question of liklihoods, and in this case I think it is likely the same person.

Based on that logic the poster Rex here sure looks like Bill Powell.

[phild707]

Hi all,
Apologies I have been unable to get near the forum for the past few days.
Having read quickly through this thread I don't think that I have missed anything too important??

For the record I voted for a 1 week ban as I am an eternal optimist I opt for deterence rather than outright exclusion.
No other hydra's were used for votes.(the only one i had was short-lived!)

Matt's idea of giving slaps on the wrist via Moderator inserts is interesting but ultimately I feel lacks the punch to deter people effectively.

I agree with MOZ's comments re Bill and i think that generally discussion on this thread is reaching new levels of civility and courtesy though the last few posts have tended to be overly nit-picky.

I would advise people not to dwell endlessly in the past. Else you can't move forward.
B and K should recognise that while they may have heard many unkind things being said about when they were eaves-dropping here, since they have actually joined the community, in the sense of entering discussions, there has been a real effort being made by OZChess members to be more civil to them.

Keep up the good work everyone!

Phil.

[phild707]

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

That is true, there are other Tasmanian posters. However, none of the other Tasmanian posters have an axe to grind. On top of that the same posting style that Kevin uses is being used by Lurking Lucy. Obviously one can never say with 100% certainty that poster X is also poster Y, its always a question of liklihoods, and in this case I think it is likely the same person.

Best

AO

Alex,
I certainly know of one other Tas poster who carries a small axe in his backpack.
He may or may not be Lurking Lucy
Phil.