If memory serves, the last post Kevin made on the subject stated that he did not have a girlfriend, but previously he had had one.

Just because I generally want people who break the law to be held accountable does not mean I am a misanthrope.

a/c you gotta keep your analogies tight or the validity of your position will be overshadowed by their clumsiness.

sounds like good advice for between the sheets as well - thanks the woman will appreciate it - she always reakons that I am clumsy where I am putting it

Some [one] has again put me on silence in the shoutbox over there meaning that my shouts cannot be seen by other users.

I didn't know anything about it until you started whinging like a little baby. In any event, your ability to post here was not impeded at any time and you can make posts here to add to any thread. I am sure if an elected mod saw fit to temporarily silence you in the Shoutbox it was for a good reason. Perhaps you were having another hysterical fit.

you are not allowed to post in threads about KB coz he does not answer in threads here

Instead of your normal rant why don't you post the details of the actual MCC 2012 bid so people can compare it to the BHCC bid. BHCC seem tohave happily made their bid publicly available however MCC don't seem to want to do this.
Only conclusion that can be drawn is that the BHCC bid was substantially better and hence the 4;0 vote.

Perhaps instead of whining about it MCC should continue to work on getting their own house in order. Why would CV give anything to MCC to run given their abysmal record in promoting and running events?

Look at the last few weekenders in Vic
Vic Open 87 players
Croydon Guy West Classic 44 players
MCC Melbourne Cup 41 players
A joke when compared to just about any other weekender run in Vic. Even worse when you look at number of members compared to turn out.
Croydon would most likely have less members than the number at their tournament and yet MCC with 160 ? members struggle to manage 25%.

Even worse again,MCC have managed to take what was the second largest tournament in Vic (after Begonia) which used to manage close to a 100 attendees when effectively run by a single individual (even came close to this when they lost their venueand had to use BHCC venue) and they have turned it into a badly promoted and badly run joke. Given any other choice why would CV hand over the Vic Open to let them kill this too?
This years Melb Cup Tournament was promoted by Cordover and Tornelo as more proof of how fantasic the product was with raves before the start about the amount of "live" games that would be available. The Tornelo website did not even show the tournament as having started until well after it had finished let alone show any games or scores, live or not. The only thing that saved the tournament from a total disater was the quality of the arbiter who effectively ran it with no other support from any MCC members or committe, including not having working internet at the venue. The arbiter happens to also be one of the CV executive who voted for BHCC over MCC. As noted above, MCC have not released the bid, but after that sort of experience anyone would have to be hard pressed to vote for aMCC bid regardless of how good or bad it may be. At the end of the day the executive would need to take the demonstrated abilities of the biders into account as well as the "claims" in the bids.

As far as the number of members of MCC, you would do well to remember that your club would have the largest number of dual members of any club. In other words you have a very large number of chess players that have fond memories of the MCC and when you first took office and started to revive the club came back in droves and re-joined the club to support you. These same members, in quite a number of cases, are active members of their other clubs and in quite a few cases committe members and are the people responsible for voting in the current CV executive. Your vote numbers maynot please you however your actual member base has much more say than you realise. I would not go so far as to say they are happy with the current executive however I woud say that they almost universally aggree they are better than the ordover alternative that you are pushing. If there was anyone else putting up their hand I am sure they would get a run. I would have said the same about yourself if you put your hand up instead of whining from the sidelines like a spoilt kid, however I believe that your rants over the last few months have possibly alienated enough pf your "dual members" and the general Vic chessplayers that you would no longer get the votes. I would also expect to see a fairly dramatic plunge in membership at MCC as these alienated members give upon their hopes of a vibrant MCC.

Wil be interesting to see the fallout from the Aus Juniors. I am sure it will be well run as Simon and the one or two other parents doing all the work are not going to allow it to fail. but I wonder if MCC will ever see any of these members again after the event now that they have worked out how much effort the club is going to put into assisting with running the event they are so busy bragging about.

Instead of your normal rant why don't you post the details of the actual MCC 2012 bid so people can compare it to the BHCC bid. BHCC seem tohave happily made their bid publicly available however MCC don't seem to want to do this.

Perhaps instead of whining about it MCC should continue to work on getting their own house in order. Why would CV give anything to MCC to run given their abysmal record in promoting and running events?

Even worse again,MCC have managed to take what was the second largest tournament in Vic (after Begonia) which used to manage close to a 100 attendees when effectively run by a single individual (even came close to this when they lost their venueand had to use BHCC venue) and they have turned it into a badly promoted and badly run joke. Given any other choice why would CV hand over the Vic Open to let them kill this too?

This years Melb Cup Tournament was promoted by Cordover and Tornelo as more proof of how fantasic the product was with raves before the start about the amount of "live" games that would be available. The Tornelo website did not even show the tournament as having started until well after it had finished let alone show any games or scores, live or not.

The only thing that saved the tournament from a total disater was the quality of the arbiter who effectively ran it with no other support from any MCC members or committe, including not having working internet at the venue.

I would also expect to see a fairly dramatic plunge in membership at MCC as these alienated members give upon their hopes of a vibrant MCC.

Wil be interesting to see the fallout from the Aus Juniors. I am sure it will be well run as Simon and the one or two other parents doing all the work are not going to allow it to fail. but I wonder if MCC will ever see any of these members again after the event now that they have worked out how much effort the club is going to put into assisting with running the event they are so busy bragging about.

Seems like the breakdown in their shoutbox has caused him a serious crisis!

#1160 resulted in a particularly ill-tempered ... outburst from [Alex]...

I wonder why we, or others, even bother with the Toolbpox. It is now reduced to little more than three or four posters behaving stupidly towards Chess Chat and a few of its posters in particular.

DJ

Is this criticism of your fellow ACF VP's? It sure sounds like it.

We have been asking you not to bother with us for some time now, to just leave us alone and ignore us. But you lot haven't listened and continually meddle in our affairs. So its nice to see the penny finally dropped for you Dennis.

I hope your fellow ACF mates take your advice.

Ummm. Does that mean KB is still posting here?