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Old 08-16-2010, 02:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Discontent Over Lack of Bells & Whistles

Originally Posted by Sam Johnson
I just want to say that as a long time member of Chess Chat I am disappointed with the lack of any new features, new design, new anything on this forum.

For all their faults on Australia's other chess forum, I wish to say this, at least it seems every couple months of so they have new features, new downloads, things to make life more enjoyable for the membership.

Over here we get basically nothing by comparison. Recently they even got a new pgn viewer there, one which works with [pgn] tags like here - except theirs is bigger, better looking, and has a few more features than our old outdated chess viewer here.

I don't want this just to be a complaint - and have created a hydra as allowed by the rules here so that i don't get targetted for raising this issue, but I think its time for some major upgrades to this forum. If we don't get them, I can't really speak for anyone else, but I will choose to spend most of my posting and time in the Toolbox vs instead of here. Enough is enough already.

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I acknowledge the point that things haven't changed all that much here (in terms of new "functionality"). However, I would also argue that the main business of a forum is to exchange ideas. And so the functionality you need is to be able to post and search, set up polls and (because this is a chess forum) load positions and games that people can view online.

We have made structural changes to the forum to improve the way the forum is presented and thus assist in the core business of exchanging ideas. For example, the way that the tournament forum is managed has been improved to make it easier to find information on current and future events. Also the Teen sub-forum was added and a number of other sub forums were added to the Non-Chess area.

So in summary, we are continually improving things here. In your message you say things are so much better there that you will spend more time there but the only feature you mention is PGN viewer (which we have had here for years) so it is not clear that your decision is based on some feature which is not available here. If it is just the size of the chessboard that is an issue you can probably change your screen resolution to achieve the same end.
In other words, shut up and drink the Kool Aid Sam! Your points have been noted and ignored. No wonder so few Chess Chatters don't even bother raising these issues with CC management. Their feedback falls on deaf ears.

That said, however, this forum seems to be running on all cylinders now. I don't think there will be any new upgrades made here, because everything I wanted to achieve and deliver to members - now has been.

But if anyone has any suggestions on new mods we can install here - just shoot me a PM and I'll see if it can be added.
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Old 08-16-2010, 05:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Disingenuous Reasons = Removal of Critical Thread

True to form, Kevin has silenced any dissent from CC members by removing the above thread and blaming someone here for 'advertising' OzChess. This is despite the fact that we are insultingly called the toolbox in the anon's post, suggesting that this action by Kevin is nothing more than the removal of genuine criticism through false pretenses.

My own guess would be that its the same CC (primarily CC) poster who asked me via PM whether I could share the new pgn chess viewer with CC. I think I mentioned that I had received such in another thread, but can't be sure.
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Originally Posted by Just2Good View Post
True to form, Kevin has silenced any dissent from CC members by removing the above thread and blaming someone here for 'advertising' OzChess. This is despite the fact that we are insultingly called the toolbox in the anon's post, suggesting that this action by Kevin is nothing more than the removal of genuine criticism through false pretenses.

...if Bonbot removed that thread then he is acting pretty much true to form. Are people simply going to put up with his dogmatic authoritarian paranoia for ever over there? The chess chat posters are like people in the old communist block, they all know something is wrong ,but they are all scared of speaking up because of the secret police.



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Old 08-16-2010, 11:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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KB would like to give a ShoutOut to the idiot in the other place who just send him the most ludicrously harmless abusive PM in internet history

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Old 08-16-2010, 11:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7 View Post
...if Bonbot removed that thread then he is acting pretty much true to form. Are people simply going to put up with his dogmatic authoritarian paranoia for ever over there? The chess chat posters are like people in the old communist block, they all know something is wrong ,but they are all scared of speaking up because of the secret police.



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You should appreciate me voluntaring that you can be barred for this post. just in case you don't know their rules. Is that your appreciation for KB giving you a special gold embossed invitation to go back no questions asked and no patrol period like I get.
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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] deanhogg: hi kb , l have two people in mind for that again just stupid as usual
[16-08-2010 10:50 PM] Kevin Bonham: it might actually be neither of those

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Old 08-17-2010, 12:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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[16-08-2010 11:14 PM] deanhogg: If you are out there AC please stop being " Carrier Pigeon

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You should appreciate because via me you can put the boot into them and they are not responding.

It was not me who PM sprouty but I certainly whoever did it - Sprouty I consider the biggest pest after Axiom who is no longer there. Seeing that you asked me. Sprouty speaks in pidgeon yankee for years and no one cares, I speaka da lika dis once and Bill bars me. You work it out. Sprouty breaks 10 in a row in sb and I complain to KB and Bill, nothing happens to him and I get barred the same day. Not that I am complaining I love it, KBs and my S& M sessions.
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[16-08-2010 10:21 PM] Kevin Bonham: KB would like to give a ShoutOut to the idiot in the other place who just send him the most ludicrously harmless abusive PM in internet history
[16-08-2010 10:49 PM] deanhogg: hi kb , l have two people in mind for that again just stupid as usual
[16-08-2010 10:50 PM] Kevin Bonham: it might actually be neither of those
[16-08-2010 11:14 PM] deanhogg: If you are out there AC please stop being " Carrier Pigeon "
[16-08-2010 11:21 PM] Kevin Bonham: AC is a carrier pigeon for sure, over there they have an account called "Carrier Pigeon" which is operated at least some of the time by moz/starter/ursogr8/karmakarma/Trevor
[16-08-2010 11:24 PM] deanhogg: They intrigue continues ! about mystery abuser , He fits profile AC
[16-08-2010 11:24 PM] Kevin Bonham: not AC either!
[16-08-2010 11:26 PM] Kevin Bonham: nearly all my PMs there are from AC or Ax, Alex pretty much went cold turkey after I told them that if he sent me anymore i'd take that as consent to publish them
[16-08-2010 11:26 PM] deanhogg: l wouldnt think so since he likes to keep a foot in every place . Just like Latham needs all friends he can get
[16-08-2010 11:27 PM] Kevin Bonham: now with your mention of latham you are accidentally getting warmish there


NOw Deano, it was me who compared Latham to Matt - putting the jigsaw puzzle together, but I don't know in this case - regards and ask them not to bar me again for above effort, just filling you in
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thumbs down KB's PM Silliness

It appears Kevin still wants me to PM him afterall. Apparently I summarized the below PM from Kevin to mean 'Please stop private messaging me.' But now Kevin is saying that's not what he meant afterall!

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Dear Alex,

Following your latest "infraction", accompanied as it was by an abusive message that contained no intelligent content and was basically just of schoolboy abuse level, I am writing to inform you formally that I consider any future PMs you send me, including "infractions", to be on the public record and available to me to quote and circulate publicly wherever and whenever I please, including in excerpted form, and stating your real full name as the person responsible.

If you do not wish any future PM or "infraction" you send me to be quoted publicly, then please do not PM me or issue "infractions".

This also includes shoutbox PMs. It does not include emails sent from email addresses that you have used to email me in the past.

On pretty much any site you lacked admin power on you would lose your PM rights for emailing another user in such a manner.

I am copying this PM to two of your moderators so that they are aware of the situation. I am not requesting any action from them. I just wish them to know that I have exercised my right to declare that any future PMs that you send me may be published.

Again, if you don't like this, please do not PM me.

Yours sincerely, Kevin Bonham.
Now Kevin is stating that it is okay if I PM him, but that Kevin will make the PM public by posting it.

My questions to Kevin are as follow:

(a) How much editing of my PM would there be when you post it?

(b) Would you post the PM in its entirety, or only selected portions of it to misrepresent the PM?

(c) How many words of my PM would you outright change, and how many punction marks would you change? (As you have done on a previous occasion).

At this stage Kevin, I am thinking you can keep your offer. You can even wipe your nose with it. I will place the same caveat on any PM you send me, but unlike you I will post your PM in its entirety and leave it unchanged.
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Now Alex, if you are trying to dislodge Denis as ACF legal officer I recommend that you start crawling to our mate Kevin, he loves it.
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Now Alex, if you are trying to dislodge Denis as ACF legal officer I recommend that you start crawling to our mate Kevin, he loves it.
I have no intention of digging any of them out of the hole they have dug for themselves. But you should feel free, if you have a two hands available to help.
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Just out of curiosity, is AC a part of Chess Chat that comes over here and does not like the people here?
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Just out of curiosity, is AC a part of Chess Chat that comes over here and does not like the people here?
No he's just an elite lackey commie, freedom denying , human-hater , basically .

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Just out of curiosity, is AC a part of Chess Chat that comes over here and does not like the people here?
I don't think I could say I like the people anywhere, if that answers your question.
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I don't think I could say I like the people anywhere, if that answers your question.
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