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Old 08-18-2007, 02:43 AM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
Billbot just won't let this go. Please see his latest frothing at the mouth tonight:


Mate

Get a dictionary. You will find that the word analogous, and note that that is how it is spelt - not analagous as you spelt it - means the following:

"similar or equivalent in some respects though otherwise dissimilar"

Therefore, it does not mean 'exactly the same comparison'.

Comprende Vous?

Good!

G'Night Then

BG's ignorance of the English language is by now legendary and his mastery of the mangled malapropism and misspelling bring constant sorrow to those foolish enough to attempt to engage in rational debate with him.
It’s a pet hate of mine; clowns who use big words or pointlessly convoluted expressions in an attempt to present themselves in a cultured light, you know, like novice rural newspaper reporters.

I ran in to his boundless ignorance in this regard early on in the piece, in one of the few email encounters that I have had with him and this was in the days before I realised that I was dealing with a deeply disturbed personality and subsequently withdrew from email contact.
It’s pretty funny though really in hindsight.

On my asking his advice about a particular tournament condition, (doesn’t really matter which), being applied to a few games in a tournament, I was solemnly informed that, if that particular tournament condition was applied to those particular games then “that tournament would not be rated in its entirety”.
What he actually meant to say was that the ENTIRE tournament would not be rated but of course what he had actually said was, NOT ALL of the tournament games would be rated.
This left me to draw the obvious but, (according to obewankenobe, the lord of Starwars), mistaken conclusion, that only the games involved would be so penalised.
All this confusion…. which could be so easily avoided if only obe would aim to communicate in a level of written English that is more realistically in keeping with his intellectual bank balance and educational capability.

So anyway AO, thanks for your valiant attempts to educate Darth Vaders best friend with your explanation of the meaning of the word "analogous".
I have offered similar complimentary lessons in the past but found it to be a less than rewarding experience as there is little thanks from the ingrate and even less sign of improvement.
Maybe best to let him continue on his own sad bastard “obfuscating” way.

Thanks for reporting on the shoutbox. Very interesting.
I am pretty much out of touch on what’s going on over there, I have visited briefly perhaps twice (?) in two months and not missing it at all.
I don’t think I have been banned for life yet from CC but I am still hopeful and very much open to suggestions on how to go about doing this quickly and easily.

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Old 08-18-2007, 08:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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“obfuscating”
This relatively uncommon word has a long history at CC. Perhaps someone stiil with a key to the CC door could search the site for the first use of the word "obfuscat(e)(ing)(ed)", and post the text here.
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Old 08-18-2007, 08:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Imagine:

A youth from a disfunctional family is nabbed by pig for calling him a policeman. The beak fines the punk $150. It is not paid within 4 weeks, so the punk goes into the lock-up for two days. But he escapes because the door was not locked properly.

Duely rearrested and put infront of the beak again cops another 2 days at Her Majesty's. The swine who mis managed the door lock gives the punk a slap up the back of the head for getting him in trouble. The punk spits at the porker's snout.

Up in front of the beak again and it's 4 weeks at Long Bay Correctional.

OK, now it gets ugly. Punk is a zero to the lifers but makes the mistake of being too big for his boots, gets a beating, gives a beating to someone who has friends and ends up with another 12 months. To cut a long story short, the punk spends the rest of his life in prison.

The law and order justice system has a lot to answer for.

And the ACF Vice President Kevin Bonham exposes himself as a hanging judge, jury and executioner:
*sigh*. I tried (and have also tried email) but it was futile: Rain banned (hydra of banned user) and Axiom ban extended by a week.
In a perfect world, people like Kevin Bonham would be shunned from all society by all society and never ever return.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The National Coaltition Against Bullying has some statistics that may help some of us understand the nature of bullying, and what could be described as behaviour resulting from a past history of bullying. This is some of what they had to say:

Currently 1 in 6 Australian children are bullied and we know that Children who are bullied are 3 times more likely to develop depressive symptoms.

One study of 500 children found that aggressive behaviour at the age of eight was a powerful predictor of criminality and violent behaviour at the age of 30. Former bullies were four times more likely than other pupils to engage in relatively serious crime. By the age of 24, 60 per cent of bullies had a criminal record.

School bullies are particularly at risk of becoming serious violent offenders and are more likely to raise children who themselves become bullies.


And this one is even easier to see the end product:

Make no mistake, school bullying can push people to the very edge of despair and can have effects that last throughout life, as this message to the Anti-Bullying Network website shows: I suffered at the hands of bullies throughout the whole of school. It turned me into a bitter person filled with nothing but hate and a total inability to form relationships. I have no self confidence at all... I have very few friends.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Kevin Bonham is doing so many triple back flips with double pike and six and a half twists that he looks like turning into whipped cream.

I'm personally willing (grudgingly) to just keep putting in the effort of banning his hydras until his current ban (now three weeks) is up, so long as the number of them stays manageable. If he signs up dozens per day it might be different.
One rule for one, another for another. Moderation at CC is totallyinconsistant - an unholy mix of special deals and bullying that makes ATSIC look like the Salvos.
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Mental abuse

People who think they are above others have a real problem. When they call others fool’s as is done on the other chat line, this is mental abuse.

They should look into the mirror and they may well find a bigger fool.

Because People like them get into chess leadership is why chess is going backwards with Adult players.

They are so far up them selves that they fail to see that other people may have some better ideas then they do.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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On CC recently, Firegoat asked Bill Gletsos some hard questions. This was Bill Gletsos' response:
Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos
Given the abuse you have regularly and constantly hurled at me in the past, there is absolutely no reason why I should give you the time of day let alone waste my time on you or your questions.

To which Firegoat correctly replied (paraphrasing used):

Originally Posted by Firegoat
It seems to me that the only time you only answer my posts is when you are being derogatory. But now it appears you confirm my beliefs, and yet, at at the same time refuse to participate in any positive discussion.

Make up your mind Gletsos. And while you are there get your buddy Jessop to heap crap on your argumentative style. Because it seems to me that on Cheschat the mod squad and their friends get to behave in any way they like, while other posters always have to second guess.

Why can't you answer simple questions Gletsos? What are you hiding from the chess playing public?

cheers Fg7
Indeed Firegoat7!

We here at OzChess would like to know why Bill Gletsos won't answer your last 2 questions in particular!

Full Post by Firegoat Here

At this point Dennis Jessop adds his 2 cents worth (and thats about what its worth):
Originally Posted by Dennis Jessop
Goat old chap, if I had any idea at all of what you are talking about I might be able to enlighten you. I think you've been spending too much time in the company of reprobates in other places and your brain has turned to custard.

DJ
Unfortunately it is the duty of OzChess to 'enlighten' those who may be ill informed that Firegoat is not a member of OzChess, if that was the suggestion. Accordingly, if anyone has custard brains it certainly isn't Firegoat.
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Old 09-29-2007, 10:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This is a Great Site
It is great to have a chess site that is not polluted with rubbish and nasty people like that on chess chat.
The nasty people on chess chat that call others fools, who do they think they are? “Gods”.

I believe that they must be confused, Possibly looking at them selves in the mirror to find the inspiration to dislike.

Keep up the great effort you are all doing on this site . Every one please tell all your mates about this site.

Post and have a great day. Be nice to each other and make friends not enemy’s.
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This is a Great Site
It is great to have a chess site that is not polluted with rubbish and nasty people like that on chess chat.
The nasty people on chess chat that call others fools, who do they think they are? “Gods”.

I believe that they must be confused, Possibly looking at them selves in the mirror to find the inspiration to dislike.

Keep up the great effort you are all doing on this site . Every one please tell all your mates about this site.

Post and have a great day. Be nice to each other and make friends not enemy’s.
Thanks Rex

I am at a crossroads in a way, trying to contemplate whether or not creating this site has been worthwhile. I don't know what criteria I should use to judge that, membership numbers, growing membership base, committed members, number of members who contribute, quality of posts here vs quality elsewhere, etc.

If Matt hadn't bought a 50% ownership stake in OzChess the answer to the above would be 'No' I think, the expense would not have been justified. But because the expenses were halved, the jury is still out on the question.

In almost everyway OzChess is superior to CC from a technological basis, but that alone hasn't seemed to attract new members. Big and vibrant chess personalities, like Firegoat7 for instance, have been reluctant to make OzChess their home. Michael Baron has been the biggest loss in that respect, I really miss his insightful perspective on things. Finding out the reasons why big chess personalities have been reluctant to post here may help me address those issues.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Fg7 is in the house!!

cheers Fg7
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Fg7 is in the house!!

cheers Fg7
Hello Firegoat,

Is this the real goat or just a genuine imitation? Glad to see you here mate.

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ps- I can give you an avatar is you like, and I offer all my new members a customized title if they wish. Unlike another forum you may be familiar with, I don't charge premium membership fees to offer my members those kinds of services, so please feel free to PM me if interested.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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[Today 03:17 PM] Chessic-Adventures: Shouldn't this sort of thing go into a thread and not the shoutbox
[Today 02:23 PM] Firegoat7: basically they argued this site was filled with ethically dubious characters
[Today 02:23 PM] Firegoat7: all the usual suspects suggested that no mention of this site should occur
[Today 02:22 PM] Firegoat7: Basically, a thread occurred that suggests that Kevin bonham wants to drag posts from Ozboard over to Chesschat
[Today 02:21 PM] Firegoat7: Neverthless in the interest of free speech I will run the gauntlet
[Today 02:20 PM] Firegoat7: of course nothing can be repeated here without risking a banning
[Today 02:19 PM] Firegoat7: the coffeelounge at Chesschat is interesting reading at the moment

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[Today 03:17 PM] Chessic-Adventures: Shouldn't this sort of thing go into a thread and not the shoutbox
[Today 02:23 PM] Firegoat7: basically they argued this site was filled with ethically dubious characters
[Today 02:23 PM] Firegoat7: all the usual suspects suggested that no mention of this site should occur
[Today 02:22 PM] Firegoat7: Basically, a thread occurred that suggests that Kevin bonham wants to drag posts from Ozboard over to Chesschat
[Today 02:21 PM] Firegoat7: Neverthless in the interest of free speech I will run the gauntlet
[Today 02:20 PM] Firegoat7: of course nothing can be repeated here without risking a banning
[Today 02:19 PM] Firegoat7: the coffeelounge at Chesschat is interesting reading at the moment
Actually, fg7 ...I scored the episode 0-1 against you. You had a valid question in regard to the NSWJCL contributions to official revenue streams, and you allowed standard diversion tactics to have them playing the man not the ball.

Thanks for the parahrasing of the Coffee Lounge.
I am no expert on their arcane interpretations, so you may or may not be due for the high jump for the paraphrasing.

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Actually, fg7 ...I scored the episode 0-1 against you. You had a valid question in regard to the NSWJCL contributions to official revenue streams, and you allowed standard diversion tactics to have them playing the man not the ball.
Hi Moz,

From my perspective every post at Chesschat is now British Bulldogs. That is, often I have to run the whole length of the field against a rabid hostile pack of attack dogs. Thats what posting is like for me on Chesschat. So...even if I do raise legitimate questions, they are immediately ridiculed or moved from their original posting position. The movement of my posts occurs on a regular basis and I wish more people could understand how much this distorts what I say or represents.

Dogbot removed several posts in that thread, all designed to prevent his boy Denis the Menace from answering some reasonable questions. They were also removed to prevent people seeing the ugly side of Denis the Menace. Have you read his latest opinion of you in the Coffee Lounge, Trevor? Its not flattering stuff. Its quite malicious and I doubt he would repeat such claims in an open forum.

Its quite a pack developing there. Dogbot, Bonbot, Muppetbot, Menacebot and Bobobot. Some say Eclecticbot should be included amongst the rank, but I disagree, although I can understand how somebody at Box Hill might find his posts acidic. Personally I am most bitterly disappointed with HKbot. We haven't talked for over 6 months now, but thats another story. I know he is a popular guy and everyone loves him, but my personal relationship with him is probably beyond repair.

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