Double Standards on ChessChat - Page 3 - OzChess

**Iconoclast** · 10-22-2007, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by MOZ

LOL

A poster suspended from the chesschat Coffee Lounge for 'revealing' the name of a thread.

that is because the ACF thinks it is a TOP SECRET

Maybe we need a CCCLCCSC (chess chat coffeelounge closed circuit security camera.)

**MOZ** · 10-22-2007, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

that is because the ACF thinks it is a TOP SECRET

Maybe we need a CCCLCCSC (chess chat coffeelounge closed circuit security camera.)

Now into day 2 of the banning of a poster for mentioning the 2 word name of a thread on the chesschat bulletin board.

**Iconoclast** · 10-23-2007, 01:40 AM

It reminds me of the Monty Python skit of the "funniest Joke in the world." So funny, that people died laughing. So, the Pommies translated it into German (during WWII) and walked through the trenches reciting it. They didn't understand German but the Germans dropped dead laughing in their trenches. The joke was so funny that each translator could only do one word each of the TOP SECRET joke. Someone did two words and was hospitalised for a week.

Toolbox Watch.

:eek:

**phild707** · 10-23-2007, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

It reminds me of the Monty Python skit of the "funniest Joke in the world." So funny, that people died laughing. So, the Pommies translated it into German (during WWII) and walked through the trenches reciting it. They didn't understand German but the Germans dropped dead laughing in their trenches. The joke was so funny that each translator could only do one word each of the TOP SECRET joke. Someone did two words and was hospitalised for a week.

Toolbox Watch. :eek:

Here's another joke Matt.
This is now my signature on ChessChat
"This user's sigfile rights have been withdrawn because he has spouted too much nonsense elsewhere and continues to do so. Nothing he says anywhere on the internet can be taken seriously."

No idea which of the two clowns over there thought up this pathetic stunt.
They would dearly love to ban me but I have never given them a reason to do so and this is what they are reduced to.

**Spiny Norman** · 10-23-2007, 12:13 PM

Disappointing. I've asked a question over there about this.

**MOZ** · 10-23-2007, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by frosty

Disappointing. I've asked a question over there about this.

Disappointing?
Or the alternative explanation could be that the moderator has become confused between his poster-role (and enmity with Phil) and his moderator role, and has used his moderator functions-buttons to continue his poster-contretemps with Phil.

There have been 'legitimate' interventions by the chesschat moderators in the past to interfere with signature lines. For example, when I placed the UCJ url in my signature line.

Nice to see your action anyway frosty.

----------------
Now into day 3 of the banning of a poster for mentioning the 2 word name of a thread on the chesschat bulletin board.

----------------

MOZ

**Spiny Norman** · 10-23-2007, 04:00 PM

The discussion "over there" is proceding well. I don't think I am alone in my curiosity and wanting to understand "what happened" and "who did it". The former is my current focus, but perhaps the latter must first be revealed in order to understand the "what happened" (given that few have "opportunity", its surely a simple question of "motive").

**Spiny Norman** · 10-23-2007, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by phild707

Here's another joke Matt.
This is now my signature on ChessChat
"This user's sigfile rights have been withdrawn because he has spouted too much nonsense elsewhere and continues to do so. Nothing he says anywhere on the internet can be taken seriously."

No idea which of the two clowns over there thought up this pathetic stunt.
They would dearly love to ban me but I have never given them a reason to do so and this is what they are reduced to.

Since someone else over there has raised the question, I will ask it here. Phil, are you in any way responsible for the writing or placing the content into the sig that you refer to above? A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice. It is basically the same question that I am asking of the mods there.

**MOZ** · 10-23-2007, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by frosty

The discussion "over there" is proceding well. I don't think I am alone in my curiosity and wanting to understand "what happened" and "who did it". The former is my current focus, but perhaps the latter must first be revealed in order to understand the "what happened" (given that few have "opportunity", its surely a simple question of "motive").

I think you have been exemplary in all this frosty. Well done.

Incidentally, it has been my impression that the offending sig. file has been attached to Phil for days if not weeks. But, I don't keep evidence, and may be wrong.

MOZ

**phild707** · 10-23-2007, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by frosty

Since someone else over there has raised the question, I will ask it here. Phil, are you in any way responsible for the writing or placing the content into the sig that you refer to above? A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice. It is basically the same question that I am asking of the mods there.

NO. Absolutely not.

As a matter of interest, (or otherwise), it's been like that for quite a while now.
I just never got around to mentioning it until now.
Its no big deal - just makes the moderators over there look even more girly than usual.

Actually I assumed at first that it was the Orifice but on second glance the use of the verb "spouted" suggests possibly Gletzoz.
As far as I am aware this is a verb that he has invented himself and certainly has used on many occasions.
Or is there a bona-fide verb "to spout" in English??

**Iconoclast** · 10-23-2007, 07:04 PM

This is the CC bullying thread.

Denis Jessop IPPres. of the ACF said,

It's a catch cry that excites lesser minds like that of Matthew Sweeney ...

He says this in a forum where I am not permitted to defend myself. This cowardly attack is just the sort of action that brings the ACF into disrepute. I have not taken a big stick to Denis Jessop in the past, as he has been cordial in person. However, I think I may have misjudged him as being desent - my personal trait of thinking the best of people - giving a fair go.

In the light of IPP DJ's mounting record of maligning others in the secret ACF Coffee Lounge and in a forum noted for its exclusivity (CC), I feel no compunction in dumping DJ in the schit. At the last Australian Open he said to me in conversation that, the ACF officials were "unimaginative," were nothing more than "maintanance men," unable to start anything, and "not the best people" for the job of running Australian chess.

Way to go, Den!

Don't schit on me, arsehole.

**MOZ** · 10-23-2007, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

<snip>.

Sorry, AO, you can't read the other side of this 'conversation' unless their thread is moved to open forum. Perhaps this lack of transparency is what chesschat MODS and the ACF want. After all their thread is titled ,"Toolbox Watch"? (Hope this quote does not get me into the high jump), and ....

Well, it did get me high-jumped from the chesschat forum. Can't report the length but it disappears on-going.
Apparently whimsy is allowed to chesschat moderators, but is a no-no for the rest of us.

Reminds me of the other hard-line mod decisions
> "Take a long walk off a short pier" (from memory)
>> "Learn to quote or die" (in retaliation to a/c's persistent mis-use of the quoting facility).

MOZ

.............

In summary, DJ should be taking up 'pathetic bid' with the signatory, who incidentally can read open forums at chesschat, but not the closed shop coffee house. Give him a chance to defend his tournament design instead of carping about it behind 'closed doors'. Or move on, as I suggested on ACCF quite some time back

MOZ

.

Bill has referred an existing thread for the President of CV to post his response to Denis carping comment on the CV bid for the 2008 Aus. Championships.
Just one problem....Denis has carped in a thread not readable to the victim.

How to respond?

**MOZ** · 10-23-2007, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

This is the CC bullying thread.

<sip>.

And may well be the longest thread on OzCHESS
MOZ

**Iconoclast** · 10-23-2007, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

And may well be the longest hread on OzCHESS

It may well do. CC is a gold mine of the choicest dark alley backstabbing. Furthermore, it seems the seams are leaking toxic waste into the viens of the motherlode. The ore analysis report states the one of the latest shafts yeilds nuggets of extra ordinary weight:

You only have to read the garbage that he has been posting in other places [OzChess] and the pathetic CV bid that he wrote to realise that his comprehension of the issues involved is next to nil.

I mean, really, is that anyway for august ACF executives to speak about State officials?

**MOZ** · 10-24-2007, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

<...>

I mean, really, is that anyway for august ACF executives to speak about State officials?

I reported Denis' breach of polite protocols to a chesschat Mod. as being unsavoury, and the mod gave me the hand (paraphrase).

10-22-2007, 07:00 AM	#31 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by MOZ LOL A poster suspended from the chesschat Coffee Lounge for 'revealing' the name of a thread. that is because the ACF thinks it is a TOP SECRET Maybe we need a CCCLCCSC (chess chat coffeelounge closed circuit security camera.) __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

10-22-2007, 09:22 PM	#32 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Iconoclast that is because the ACF thinks it is a TOP SECRET Maybe we need a CCCLCCSC (chess chat coffeelounge closed circuit security camera.) Now into day 2 of the banning of a poster for mentioning the 2 word name of a thread on the chesschat bulletin board.

10-23-2007, 01:40 AM	#33 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	It reminds me of the Monty Python skit of the "funniest Joke in the world." So funny, that people died laughing. So, the Pommies translated it into German (during WWII) and walked through the trenches reciting it. They didn't understand German but the Germans dropped dead laughing in their trenches. The joke was so funny that each translator could only do one word each of the TOP SECRET joke. Someone did two words and was hospitalised for a week. Toolbox Watch. :eek: __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

10-23-2007, 01:55 AM	#34 (permalink)
phild707 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burnie International Airport Posts: 298	Originally Posted by Iconoclast It reminds me of the Monty Python skit of the "funniest Joke in the world." So funny, that people died laughing. So, the Pommies translated it into German (during WWII) and walked through the trenches reciting it. They didn't understand German but the Germans dropped dead laughing in their trenches. The joke was so funny that each translator could only do one word each of the TOP SECRET joke. Someone did two words and was hospitalised for a week. Toolbox Watch. :eek: Here's another joke Matt. This is now my signature on ChessChat "This user's sigfile rights have been withdrawn because he has spouted too much nonsense elsewhere and continues to do so. Nothing he says anywhere on the internet can be taken seriously." No idea which of the two clowns over there thought up this pathetic stunt. They would dearly love to ban me but I have never given them a reason to do so and this is what they are reduced to. __________________ "It ain't no sin if you crack a few laws now and then, just so long as you don't break any." Mae West

10-23-2007, 12:46 PM	#36 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by frosty Disappointing. I've asked a question over there about this. Disappointing? Or the alternative explanation could be that the moderator has become confused between his poster-role (and enmity with Phil) and his moderator role, and has used his moderator functions-buttons to continue his poster-contretemps with Phil. There have been 'legitimate' interventions by the chesschat moderators in the past to interfere with signature lines. For example, when I placed the UCJ url in my signature line. Nice to see your action anyway frosty. ---------------- Now into day 3 of the banning of a poster for mentioning the 2 word name of a thread on the chesschat bulletin board. ---------------- MOZ

10-23-2007, 12:13 PM	#35 (permalink)
Spiny Norman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 224	Disappointing. I've asked a question over there about this.

10-23-2007, 04:00 PM	#37 (permalink)
Spiny Norman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 224	The discussion "over there" is proceding well. I don't think I am alone in my curiosity and wanting to understand "what happened" and "who did it". The former is my current focus, but perhaps the latter must first be revealed in order to understand the "what happened" (given that few have "opportunity", its surely a simple question of "motive").

10-23-2007, 06:01 PM	#38 (permalink)
Spiny Norman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 224	Originally Posted by phild707 Here's another joke Matt. This is now my signature on ChessChat "This user's sigfile rights have been withdrawn because he has spouted too much nonsense elsewhere and continues to do so. Nothing he says anywhere on the internet can be taken seriously." No idea which of the two clowns over there thought up this pathetic stunt. They would dearly love to ban me but I have never given them a reason to do so and this is what they are reduced to. Since someone else over there has raised the question, I will ask it here. Phil, are you in any way responsible for the writing or placing the content into the sig that you refer to above? A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice. It is basically the same question that I am asking of the mods there.

10-23-2007, 06:02 PM	#39 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by frosty The discussion "over there" is proceding well. I don't think I am alone in my curiosity and wanting to understand "what happened" and "who did it". The former is my current focus, but perhaps the latter must first be revealed in order to understand the "what happened" (given that few have "opportunity", its surely a simple question of "motive"). I think you have been exemplary in all this frosty. Well done. Incidentally, it has been my impression that the offending sig. file has been attached to Phil for days if not weeks. But, I don't keep evidence, and may be wrong. MOZ

10-23-2007, 06:40 PM	#40 (permalink)
phild707 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burnie International Airport Posts: 298	Originally Posted by frosty Since someone else over there has raised the question, I will ask it here. Phil, are you in any way responsible for the writing or placing the content into the sig that you refer to above? A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice. It is basically the same question that I am asking of the mods there. NO. Absolutely not. As a matter of interest, (or otherwise), it's been like that for quite a while now. I just never got around to mentioning it until now. Its no big deal - just makes the moderators over there look even more girly than usual. Actually I assumed at first that it was the Orifice but on second glance the use of the verb "spouted" suggests possibly Gletzoz. As far as I am aware this is a verb that he has invented himself and certainly has used on many occasions. Or is there a bona-fide verb "to spout" in English?? __________________ "It ain't no sin if you crack a few laws now and then, just so long as you don't break any." Mae West

10-23-2007, 07:04 PM	#41 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	This is the CC bullying thread. Denis Jessop IPPres. of the ACF said, It's a catch cry that excites lesser minds like that of Matthew Sweeney ... He says this in a forum where I am not permitted to defend myself. This cowardly attack is just the sort of action that brings the ACF into disrepute. I have not taken a big stick to Denis Jessop in the past, as he has been cordial in person. However, I think I may have misjudged him as being desent - my personal trait of thinking the best of people - giving a fair go. In the light of IPP DJ's mounting record of maligning others in the secret ACF Coffee Lounge and in a forum noted for its exclusivity (CC), I feel no compunction in dumping DJ in the schit. At the last Australian Open he said to me in conversation that, the ACF officials were "unimaginative," were nothing more than "maintanance men," unable to start anything, and "not the best people" for the job of running Australian chess. Way to go, Den! Don't schit on me, arsehole. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

10-23-2007, 09:47 PM	#42 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Whimsy anyone? Originally Posted by MOZ <snip>. Sorry, AO, you can't read the other side of this 'conversation' unless their thread is moved to open forum. Perhaps this lack of transparency is what chesschat MODS and the ACF want. After all their thread is titled ,"Toolbox Watch"? (Hope this quote does not get me into the high jump), and .... Well, it did get me high-jumped from the chesschat forum. Can't report the length but it disappears on-going. Apparently whimsy is allowed to chesschat moderators, but is a no-no for the rest of us. Reminds me of the other hard-line mod decisions > "Take a long walk off a short pier" (from memory) >> "Learn to quote or die" (in retaliation to a/c's persistent mis-use of the quoting facility). MOZ ............. In summary, DJ should be taking up 'pathetic bid' with the signatory, who incidentally can read open forums at chesschat, but not the closed shop coffee house. Give him a chance to defend his tournament design instead of carping about it behind 'closed doors'. Or move on, as I suggested on ACCF quite some time back MOZ . Bill has referred an existing thread for the President of CV to post his response to Denis carping comment on the CV bid for the 2008 Aus. Championships. Just one problem....Denis has carped in a thread not readable to the victim. How to respond?

10-23-2007, 09:48 PM	#43 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Iconoclast This is the CC bullying thread. <sip>. And may well be the longest thread on OzCHESS MOZ Last edited by MOZ : 10-23-2007 at 11:36 PM

10-23-2007, 10:45 PM	#44 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by MOZ And may well be the longest hread on OzCHESS It may well do. CC is a gold mine of the choicest dark alley backstabbing. Furthermore, it seems the seams are leaking toxic waste into the viens of the motherlode. The ore analysis report states the one of the latest shafts yeilds nuggets of extra ordinary weight: You only have to read the garbage that he has been posting in other places [OzChess] and the pathetic CV bid that he wrote to realise that his comprehension of the issues involved is next to nil. I mean, really, is that anyway for august ACF executives to speak about State officials? __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

10-24-2007, 12:33 AM	#45 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Iconoclast <...> I mean, really, is that anyway for august ACF executives to speak about State officials? I reported Denis' breach of polite protocols to a chesschat Mod. as being unsavoury, and the mod gave me the hand (paraphrase).

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