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Old 12-17-2009, 06:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unfortunately Kevin is still clamouring for a vote in the upcoming OzChess election.

He goes on to state:

Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
Let this be the first test of Alex's claim that he has sufficient integrity to oversee an election process.
The rules of the election which I posted a few days ago, and which have not changed since that time, are quite clear.
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  1. Three moderator positions will be open for voting;
  2. Voting will be open and transparent, not secret ballot;
  3. Only accounts that have made ten or more posts will be entitled to vote;
  4. Hydra accounts cannot vote unless the user's main account has not voted; and
  5. Posters can nominate candidates even if those candidates have not sought out the position.
The highlighted rule states that only 'accounts', and emphasis on that word - accounts - that have made ten (10) or more posts get a vote. The meaning of that is plain on its face.

Kevin's 'account' has zero posts. Hence, unless Kevin changes that by posting ten times, he will not be allowed to vote.

Deleted hydra accounts are not accounts within the meaning of rule 3, and even if they were - rule #4 would apply to preclude them.

Indeed, to change the rules now that they have been posted and everyone else has played by them, that is the type of thing that would diminish the integrity of the electoral process.
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Let me provide a tall tale but true, which will alert all that KB is a nut case.

Way back at the Mt Buller Aust Champs the ACF had it Anal Genetal Meating. There were about 23 eligible voters in the room. The votes were cast and collected for the ACF Presidency. The two nominees were Jessop and Guru. One extra vote was in the pile (23+1). There were 23 votes (unanimous) for for Jessop and one for Sweeney. I had slipped it into the pile. Funny prank, yes? .... No! Kevin "The "the" " Bonham insisted on a second vote to ensure there was no shenanigans.

I rest my case. LOL
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Iconoclast View Post
Let me provide a tall tale but true, which will alert all that KB is a nut case.

Way back at the Mt Buller Aust Champs the ACF had it Anal Genetal Meating. There were about 23 eligible voters in the room. The votes were cast and collected for the ACF Presidency. The two nominees were Jessop and Guru. One extra vote was in the pile (23+1). There were 23 votes (unanimous) for for Jessop and one for Sweeney. I had slipped it into the pile. Funny prank, yes? .... No! Kevin "The "the" " Bonham insisted on a second vote to ensure there was no shenanigans.

I rest my case.
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That sounds far fetched. Are you sure about this?
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That sounds far fetched. Are you sure about this?
I done it, guilty as charged. He done it, I swear.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Anything less than this is, as I already stated, like the Electoral Office not letting you vote because they accidentally deleted your name off the roll, which would be absurd.
It wouldn't be absurd at all, especially if the election is over two weeks away and there is still time for the deleted voter to have their name registered on the roll simply by making ten (10) posts.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It could be seen as hypocriticial for Kev to be insisting to vote in this forum's mod election when he (presumably) does not support them/or actively promote them at chesschat. What is his position over there?

He is accepting and attempting to enjoy higher democratic standards over here in having a vote for mods yet only denigrates the whole process. Bill seems to be more constructive.

I can't see why the knockers at Chesschat are so concerned on what is going on over here, now that I am led to believe that there are no defamation posts on this site.

Surely they have better things to do with their life.
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
It could be seen as hypocriticial for Kev to be insisting to vote in this forum's mod election when he (presumably) does not support them/or actively promote them at chesschat.
Damn straight! We call it the minority attack.

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What is his position over there?
History shows......
1. Starter,Iconoclast,PhilD,J2G ,Axiom and yours truly all banned for life.
2. The forum name censored
3.Official ACF policy to not allow a link on the main ACF webpage.

Pretty much confirms his bias and motivations. I mean really the nerve of the guy to believe anyone over here is listening to him.

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He is accepting and attempting to enjoy higher democratic standards over here in having a vote for mods yet only denigrates the whole process. Bill seems to be more constructive.
Amazing is it not. And yes, Bill is behaving much better.
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I can't see why the knockers at Chesschat are so concerned on what is going on over here, now that I am led to believe that there are no defamation posts on this site.
I mean lets look at the facts. Who is the guy that is paranoid about defamation on forums? Answer:Bonbot! Why do people take him seriously?

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Surely they have better things to do with their life.
Apparently not.

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Old 12-18-2009, 09:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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And yes, Bill is behaving much better.
Let's not get carried away. He is behaving a little bit better, and certainly our higher standards of civility are starting to rub off on him - thankfully (finally)!
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Old 12-25-2009, 08:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It is a bit over the top KB expecting to vote when he does not have any posts against his name when the rules is that one needs 10 posts. It is a good rule to prevent sleeping hydras voting and one poster getting more than one vote. (like there are sleeping terrorists cells waiting to be called into action) Otherwise KB and maybe Bill could have rigged the election. If it was not in original conditions it was certainly justified in bringing in.

As a man of principle I never use hydras whereas it seems that KB wants to skirt authorities - naughty naughty.

If KB who has been posting here for years does have ten genuine posts us then what has he been doing - that is worse then that old neighbour pulling up the weeds - at least he was putting runs on the board.

I have too many posts but I am not going to bother voting - that is the Aussie coming out of me.

Like I can't play chess over there when barred so why should KB be able to vote here if doesn't have the runs on the board coz was too busy trying to get around bans by using hydras, or wanting to post anonyously - that is the risk one takes.

Next he will be wanting to get up to Heaven even though he does not go to church every Sunday.
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Old 12-25-2009, 01:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I guess someone put a lump of coal in Kevin's stocking because he is still complaining about our elections.

Originally Posted by Kevin
....he has now accepted three of my suggestions:

1. He has fixed the closing date of the poll to Dec 31.
2. He has re-run the poll with the withdrawal of LM.
3. He appears to have randomised the ballot order

...The election is still a joke since there is still no evidence of most of the "candidates" accepting nomination or having interest in the position... some of those voting may have not actually made ten posts.
Firstly, I didn't accept any of Kevin's suggestions - but the irony is that Kevin thinks I did and he still calls the elections a joke. What does that tell us about the value of implementing his suggestions?

Then he goes on to suggest that some of the candidates on the ballot don't want to be there - a bogus claim. And he finishes by suggesting that people have voted in the poll even though they made less than 10 posts. Again this is false as all voters who have voted have made 10 or more posts, and this can be easily verified.

So it looks like good ol Kevin is grasping at straws here, but really he knows in his heart of hearts that our election has been free, fair, and transparent - concepts which challenge the moderation on Chess Chat regularly.
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Originally Posted by Just2Good View Post
And he finishes by suggesting that people have voted in the poll even though they made less than 10 posts. Again this is false as all voters who have voted have made 10 or more posts, and this can be easily verified.
Actually that is not correct.
Back when you started the polling booth thread on 22/12/2009 at 11:39am member Bogazic had only made 2 posts. Even when you restarted the poll at 7:59pm on 24/12/2009 they had only made 8 votes.
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Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos View Post
Actually that is not correct.
Back when you started the polling booth thread on 22/12/2009 at 11:39am member Bogazic had only made 2 posts. Even when you restarted the poll at 7:59pm on 24/12/2009 they had only made 8 votes.
My search of his profile shows that he has 10 posts.
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Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos View Post
Actually that is not correct.
Back when you started the polling booth thread on 22/12/2009 at 11:39am member Bogazic had only made 2 posts. Even when you restarted the poll at 7:59pm on 24/12/2009 they had only made 8 votes.
Bill he now has 21 votes, it is Christmas and we are generous in xmas spirit so let him have the vote. In some countries they even let prisoners out at xmas as sign of good will - hint hint nudge nudge
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My search of his profile shows that he has 10 posts.
Yes but as I already pointed out he did not have 10 posts when the poll started.
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Old 12-25-2009, 11:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It's Christmas Day! ... and you guys still think that it's ok to argue... by me... that's ok!

Is there any reason why Billy G can't be a moderator on OzChess? If not, can I cast my vote for him please?
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