Axiom

Seemingly no one can do anything about it , even if it was .




uh oh ........unless we all take the implanted micro chip .

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[Today 04:14 PM] Just2Good:
[Today 03:51 PM] Axiom: (< <O> n
[Today 03:39 PM] Axiom: cmon kb , think about the punters !
[Today 03:38 PM] Axiom: its the heart of the problem and it is the solution
[Today 03:38 PM] Axiom: but at the same time should be allowed to mention them in passing even
[Today 03:37 PM] Axiom: who understands exactly not to monopolise the sb , for personal interests
[Today 03:35 PM] Axiom: this is not a murder trial sentencing, its a chess forum legend trying to entertain the punters !
[Today 03:34 PM] Axiom: it was not similar as it did not contain the uncensored clause , and im serving my ban now for that anyway !
[Today 03:33 PM] Kevin Bonham: no you have already blown it by violating the previous agreement of a similar nature and we know you would not abide by this one
[Today 03:32 PM] Axiom: primary is allow me to return uncensored , and if i overdo it once in the sb , then ban for life , and never another word from me
[Today 03:31 PM] Kevin Bonham: any appeals board would ignore you. we are a privately owned site, we have the right to ban. simple
[Today 03:31 PM] Axiom: but all this is secondary
[Today 03:31 PM] Kevin Bonham: you could have protested it in a non-rule violating way
[Today 03:30 PM] Axiom: This would be my case for the appeals board
[Today 03:30 PM] Axiom: HENCE HYPERBOLIC PUNISHMENT
[Today 03:30 PM] Axiom: BECAUSE I WAS PROTESTING THE ORIGINAL CENSORSHIP
[Today 03:30 PM] Kevin Bonham: and of course, if you break the rules to "protest" against a punishment you don't agree with, you get banned for longer
[Today 03:29 PM] Kevin Bonham: actually you were on probation following which your SB restrictions would be reconsidered but you could not behave for long enough
[Today 03:27 PM] Axiom: but because that was never attended to i protested , which resulted in ever futher bannings
[Today 03:27 PM] Kevin Bonham: not at all, you persistently used hydras to bring up that material again even after multiple bans
[Today 03:27 PM] Axiom: i learned the lesson not to over do it in the sb with my banned material
[Today 03:27 PM] Kevin Bonham: you never learned any lessons.
[Today 03:26 PM] Axiom: the hydras were for the censoring , which was a lesson learned long ago , see how its hyperbolic ?
[Today 03:26 PM] Kevin Bonham: let's reduce it to axiomatic essentials: if we do not know who you are i will never unban you. all negotiation beyond that point is futile
[Today 03:25 PM] Axiom: you keep going around in circles
[Today 03:25 PM] Kevin Bonham: well you're the one who has persistently signed up hydras to get around bans, spammed our shoutbox with junk, taken over other accounts and defamed us all over the place, you tell me what overreacting is
[Today 03:25 PM] Axiom: lets reduce it to its axiomatic essentials : i am allowed to mention sct and infowars material occasionaly in the sb = no problem
[Today 03:24 PM] Axiom: dont you think youre over reacting all along over this ?
[Today 03:23 PM] Kevin Bonham: you would lose your appeal since a site has the right to exclude whoever it wants for whatever reason it likes if that site is privately owned
[Today 03:23 PM] Axiom: but then there would be an appeals process !
[Today 03:22 PM] Kevin Bonham: yes, i am sure there would be laws to stop someone from continually signing up on a site where they had been perm-banned and told to desist, but without knowing who you are they would be difficult to enforce
[Today 03:22 PM] Axiom: all over mentioning sct and infiowars topics too much in the sb ??? for which ive served plenty of time ??
[Today 03:21 PM] Kevin Bonham: or a (real) ISP-level complaint
[Today 03:21 PM] Axiom: you mean a law court r.o ?
[Today 03:21 PM] Kevin Bonham: if necessary, a restraining order against you revisiting when banned
[Today 03:20 PM] Axiom: like what more effective action ??
[Today 03:19 PM] Axiom: and as i keep saying repeatedly the original problem of over doing it in the sb , is no longer a problem , providing i can be allowed to mention occasionaly my topics
[Today 03:19 PM] Kevin Bonham: but we would need to know the real name of the person behind it so that we could take more effective action than just continually banning your hydras if you kept wasting our time
[Today 03:19 PM] Kevin Bonham: a different entity that was really willing to behave itself might be a different story
[Today 03:18 PM] Kevin Bonham: well, only because "being axiom" includes complete disrespect for the concept of moderator authority and this has been proven again and again
[Today 03:18 PM] Axiom: you have let out your bias there my friend
[Today 03:18 PM] Axiom: it is not what axiom does , but who axiom is ?
[Today 03:17 PM] Axiom: so that is more the truth then !
[Today 03:17 PM] Kevin Bonham: axiom can be axiom somewhere else so far as we're concerned
[Today 03:17 PM] Axiom: its very simple
[Today 03:17 PM] Axiom: it is perfectly clearnow , i simply want the right for axiom to be axiom ...again though knowing not to over do it
[Today 03:16 PM] Kevin Bonham: on the contrary, opportunities were given to you to move towards what you allege to be a "fair base level" if you could behave for long enough first, which you didn't get near doing
[Today 03:16 PM] Axiom: because we never returned to a fair base level ! hence hyperbolic !
[Today 03:15 PM] Kevin Bonham: we don't believe you do understand it since when unbanned in the past you have persistently pushed the boundaries until you overstepped them
[Today 03:15 PM] Axiom: there is no problem !
[Today 03:14 PM] Axiom: all i have ever maintained was the right to mention my topics in the sb ....learning now of course not to over do it ,..i understand that
[Today 03:14 PM] Kevin Bonham: they were singled out because you wouldn't stop going on about them in the shoutbox
[Today 03:13 PM] Axiom: axiom has been persecuted
[Today 03:13 PM] Kevin Bonham: you can say that but it does not prove it true
[Today 03:12 PM] Axiom: they are hyperbolic as they stemmed from mismodding and mistreatment by being over officious and singling out infowars and sct for discriminating treatment
[Today 03:11 PM] Axiom: lets stop thinking about ourselves here , and think about the punters
[Today 03:11 PM] Kevin Bonham: those punishments are not hyperbolic given the number, nature and extent of the breaches over time
[Today 03:10 PM] Axiom: why deprive them of the entertainment , not to mention the infotainment
[Today 03:10 PM] Axiom: i mean think about the punters
[Today 03:08 PM] Axiom: but we must return to base level starting point at its conclusion
[Today 03:08 PM] Axiom: and more to satisfy your whim
[Today 03:08 PM] Axiom: i have served more than enough time for these "sins"
[Today 03:07 PM] Axiom: its a matter of undoing these hyperbolic punishments , and return to a fair base level again , that is the answer
[Today 03:06 PM] Kevin Bonham: or not make it in the first place
[Today 03:06 PM] Kevin Bonham: you need to learn a lesson here: that when somebody goes to a considerable effort to negotiate an agreement for you, you must stick to that agreement
[Today 03:05 PM] Axiom: and even then , i dont think bill will do that again , and i know the acceptable boundaries , and the odd reference to sct or infowars or alex jones in the sb should be allowed
[Today 03:05 PM] Kevin Bonham: and your "there won't be a problem" cannot be trusted given your violation of previous conditions
[Today 03:05 PM] Kevin Bonham: there will be no negotiation of what i have said concerning readmission requirements
[Today 03:04 PM] Axiom: so i propose after the one year ban is completed , i return with full speech rights , and there wont be a problem .....unless i am provoked mercilessly by bill again !
[Today 03:04 PM] Kevin Bonham: no it isn't, there comes a point where a person who just repeatedly will not comply and repeatedly breaks agreements runs out of seventeenth chances
[Today 03:02 PM] Axiom: and a one year ban is more than sufficient to cover that
[Today 03:02 PM] Kevin Bonham: except for AO and we know who he is
[Today 03:01 PM] Kevin Bonham: no-one else has signed up hundreds of hydras, repeatedly circumvented banning and broken agreements made with the site to secure a reprieve
[Today 03:01 PM] Axiom: Why is Axiom singled out for special treatment ?
[Today 03:00 PM] Axiom: no one else has to
[Today 03:00 PM] Axiom: why should my human operative give id ?
[Today 02:59 PM] Kevin Bonham: there is bound to be a person behind the entity
[Today 02:58 PM] Axiom: how can i provide id when im an entity ?
[Today 02:56 PM] Kevin Bonham: you've already received justice
[Today 02:56 PM] Axiom: you know of which tiger i speaketh
[Today 02:56 PM] Axiom: we care not for sympathy but for justice
[Today 02:55 PM] Kevin Bonham: i'm sure the tiger really cares greatly
[Today 02:54 PM] Axiom: we are warriors
[Today 02:54 PM] Axiom: its all for the pride of the tiger
[Today 02:54 PM] Kevin Bonham: but it acheives nothing and if anything reduces the already small chance that anyone will have any sympathy for you
[Today 02:53 PM] Kevin Bonham: most highly protected? hardly. any time you sign up from a real email address (yes i know you prefer fake ones) and there doesn't happen to be a mod online you can waste your time and ours like that
[Today 02:53 PM] Axiom: quite an extraordinary operation
[Today 02:52 PM] Axiom: nearly an hour inside one of the most highly protected areas of cyber space on the net !
[Today 02:48 PM] Kevin Bonham: successful? it had the lifespan of a mayfly with SIDS
[Today 02:46 PM] Axiom: bravo Agent Orange !
[Today 02:46 PM] Axiom: Agent Orange has just completed a successful protest action within the confines of the cc sb
[Today 07:06 AM] Just2Good: (<

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[Today 05:13 PM] Axiom: (< <O> n
[Today 05:06 PM] Axiom: but this is what happens when you dont address the primary problem , and you allow its hyperbolic growth
[Today 05:03 PM] Axiom: hope so hbk , as rest day at wc
[Today 05:02 PM] Axiom: chessplayers enjoy conflict ,debate,etc etc , you dont life ban someone for protest hydras ! , you just have lengthening set ban periods , its not rocket science or a capital offence !
[Today 05:01 PM] Heartbreak Kid: will moz be televising any games tonight?
[Today 05:00 PM] Axiom: GEE ZUS
[Today 05:00 PM] Axiom: because it IS A CHESS FORUM !
[Today 05:00 PM] Kevin Bonham: anyway, i'm off for an hour or so at least
[Today 05:00 PM] Kevin Bonham: why restrict it to chess forums? i'm talking about general forum standards here
[Today 05:00 PM] Axiom: spare me that garbage kb
[Today 04:59 PM] Axiom: you name me one other chess forum that life bans for hydras protesting original action
[Today 04:58 PM] Kevin Bonham: we were extremely lenient to take so long to be pushed that far
[Today 04:58 PM] Axiom: thats bs
[Today 04:58 PM] Kevin Bonham: ax, on many other sites signing up one protesting hydra would have led to an immediate life ban. you want to talk about getting a grip, there's one right there
[Today 04:58 PM] Axiom: get a grip man
[Today 04:57 PM] Axiom: life ban for protesting hydras ?????
[Today 04:57 PM] Kevin Bonham: the acf has not had persistent repeat offenders to deal with
[Today 04:57 PM] Axiom: see a discrepancy here ?
[Today 04:57 PM] Axiom: but you have
[Today 04:57 PM] Axiom: but hasnt
[Today 04:56 PM] Kevin Bonham: the acf has the power to ban for life if it needs to
[Today 04:56 PM] Axiom: not for life !
[Today 04:56 PM] Axiom: where is this pvt owner ? where can i appeal to ?
[Today 04:56 PM] Kevin Bonham: well the acf is an organisation for aust chessplayers but it sometimes bans those who overstep the mark
[Today 04:54 PM] Axiom: exclude with suitable not over officous hyperbolic biased rulings
[Today 04:54 PM] Axiom: eitherway , it is a forum for aust chessplayers of which i am one
[Today 04:54 PM] Kevin Bonham: all nonsense, and even if the acf did own chesschat it would have the right to exclude misbehavers, as occurred on the old ACF forums
[Today 04:53 PM] Axiom: or acf as ghost overseer ?
[Today 04:52 PM] Axiom: privately owned but hijacking acf webspace !
[Today 04:51 PM] Axiom: and we at the sct uphold the right to fight injustice and oppression !
[Today 04:50 PM] Kevin Bonham: we uphold the libertarian right to exclude misbehavers from privately owned webspace
[Today 04:50 PM] Axiom: yes gunner did a hit and run ..typical , but cam(better than tv)D was good value
[Today 04:50 PM] Kevin Bonham: well you might wish there was a collectivised socialist-style remedy process for your concerns but there is not
[Today 04:48 PM] Axiom: now you know perfectly well that was simple protest action consistent with the guidelines of the Forum Disputes Act of 2002
[Today 04:47 PM] Kevin Bonham: though the replies from cameron and gunner were worth the effort
[Today 04:47 PM] Kevin Bonham: i don't consider flooding the CC shoutbox with nonsense that takes me several minutes to clean up to be polite
[Today 04:46 PM] Axiom: the sct have much to teach you about truth justice and liberty
[Today 04:45 PM] Axiom: it was the birth of a universe !
[Today 04:43 PM] Axiom: now please , i have been very polite with you today , i really dont see the need to insult me and my memories
[Today 04:41 PM] Kevin Bonham: i mean, SCT is a four year old injoke about one player's casual reaction to a disappointing result
[Today 04:40 PM] Kevin Bonham: the punters who care can find you somewhere else. my impression is that you overstayed their interest level by repeating the same jokes and tactics over and over for too long
[Today 04:36 PM] Axiom: DOES ANYONE CARE ABOUT THE PUNTERS ANYMORE ?!?
[Today 04:32 PM] Axiom: Thats all very well, but what about the punters ?
[Today 04:27 PM] Kevin Bonham: sorry, got distracted by a wannabe pedant on tasmanian times and may have now lost interest anyway\

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Just2Good

Can't we just read it in the shoutbox?

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Just keeping the punters informed

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MOZ

And of course, hubris and intolerance by moderators of the ACF officials' chesschat site deserves to be screwed in a thread as evidence of cyber-bullying.

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MOZ

The continued iatrogenic fallout of chesschat bans is every-escalating. The ACF officials have much to answer for.

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antichrist

what on earth does that funny word mean - is it a capt underpants word of the day?

Axiom

well , its not "lefty" or "vomit" .

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Just2Good

Originally Posted by antichrist

there is a solid core of CV and Victorian-based events that it covers very well. The rest of board is not very important. But they show plenty of games also. If they cut Axioms tongue out the board would improve 500%

Yes, but now with Amir also posting games from the Gold Coast, one would be likely to see about half of Queensland events being covered here - the other half from Brisbane and the Gardiner Chess Centre (which is closing I heard) still get press on CC.

Also AC, you forgot to mention that not only are there plenty of games here, we also have vastly better looking pgn chess viewers. For example, compare this to Chess Chat's thumb nail version of a pgn chess viewer:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6

The size of their board is about a1 to a5, a5 to e5, e5 to e1, and e1 to a1 - if you hover your mouse over those squares. So don't forget to bring your magnifying glass next time to visit CC

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antichrist

Ax why dont you jump on a clapped out boat to CC, burn your id, sabotage the boat and claim refugee status - even take it top the High Court - will take them ages to get rid of you