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**Hayek** · 05-11-2010, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Axiom

ok , which ones do you think are hoaxes ?

my point is , you appear to have studied little of the infowars info . read my "do you remember thread"
eg.Remember when alex warned of military on american streets ? Well now the army is training to tackle tea partiers !
Also i have for over 4yrs presented 1000s of posts on these matters both here and the other forum.I'm just inviting you to do some backstory reading.

Most, if not all of Jones' "theories" do not contain sufficient evidence as expected by the academic community with any research or study.

Originally Posted by Axiom

ive seen the sites criticising alex jones , and the worst they can come up with is he is not anti zionist enough !
Have you read about the media apologising to alex jones after falsely accusing him in the mmalkin shouting match . There are a litany of lies about a jones to demonise him , like saying the jewish museum shooter was an alex jones fan ,when he was the opposite !
Alex Jones has never lost a court case .
Where are the defamation cases , if what he says is false ??

Again, the burden of proof lies on the person trying to claim that something (in this case conspiracy) exists, not on the person saying that current evidence does not support such as claim. Read my post in your "do you remember" thread.

Originally Posted by Axiom

ron paul appears on the alex jones regularly as a guest - what does that tell you ??

That tells me that he likes media attention as does any politician for the obvious reasons- it helps increase name recognition and win votes.

Originally Posted by Axiom

my views are being accepted by more and more people everyday , as the uninforming msm collapses .
i suggest you look at the scientific papers presented by prof. s .jones.

Pure speculation, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter unless you can show valid proof. Most academics still do not accept many of his absurd ideas. There are billions of people out there- some will surely give in to your pandering. Besides, I thought the concept of a lot of people believing something means nothing to you since you think most people live under an umbrella of conspiracies that they don't know about anyway.

Originally Posted by Axiom

pertaining to these competing states as opposed to the NAFTA/NAU agenda
Read "Tragedy & Hope" C.Quigley .
What do the CFR &TRI LAT COMM do ?

I have read about NAFTA (for the record I oppose it) as well as the EU, etc. I do not think it is a world conspiracy though.

Originally Posted by Axiom

except im saying it because , you appear completely uninformed about the globalisation agenda (which is everywhere , check out the number of tertiary academic courses in globalisation ) , the words of kissinger ( who uses the term"global governance") , the aims of Club of Rome ( from their own papers) , z brzinski ( the grand chessboard) .
the rise of the EU and other geo-trade/govt blocks .
see my "new world order" thread.
and guess where i heard about this : ECB: Global governance today , yep , the most informing source on the planet - ALEX JONES !

Sure there is a lot of writing on the matter and I have seen some of it. That does not prove the claim though. Give some concrete evidence and we'll talk.

Originally Posted by Axiom

so what was kissinger talking about when he used the term "global governance" ?
and what did bushes,blair,brown etc mean by "new world order"
what did g brown mean by "the need for a world constitution for the global financial systems" ?

Again, a lot of what leaders have said has been taken out of context. Sure there are some who believe or want a one world government, but I do not see the modern states pushing that in policy right now.

Originally Posted by Axiom

you bet ! they love globalisation !
China is the U.N's model state !
but its a step by step process , the history of the EU gives you a good idea how this forms . Currently we are in the phase of larger free range serf farming management blocks being set up , and USA being destroyed by design , so as to help usher in further steps towards this global governance .

You realize that a more entangled Europe is completely different than one world government right? Ever think that the EU was done as a way to strengthen European power against the US, China, or whoever as opposed to the start of combining everyone into one state?

Originally Posted by Axiom

WATCH

Short on time right now, will check it out later.

05-11-2010, 10:42 AM	#377 (permalink)
Hayek Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 93	Originally Posted by Axiom ok , which ones do you think are hoaxes ? my point is , you appear to have studied little of the infowars info . read my "do you remember thread" eg.Remember when alex warned of military on american streets ? Well now the army is training to tackle tea partiers ! Also i have for over 4yrs presented 1000s of posts on these matters both here and the other forum.I'm just inviting you to do some backstory reading. Most, if not all of Jones' "theories" do not contain sufficient evidence as expected by the academic community with any research or study. Originally Posted by Axiom ive seen the sites criticising alex jones , and the worst they can come up with is he is not anti zionist enough ! Have you read about the media apologising to alex jones after falsely accusing him in the mmalkin shouting match . There are a litany of lies about a jones to demonise him , like saying the jewish museum shooter was an alex jones fan ,when he was the opposite ! Alex Jones has never lost a court case . Where are the defamation cases , if what he says is false ?? Again, the burden of proof lies on the person trying to claim that something (in this case conspiracy) exists, not on the person saying that current evidence does not support such as claim. Read my post in your "do you remember" thread. Originally Posted by Axiom ron paul appears on the alex jones regularly as a guest - what does that tell you ?? That tells me that he likes media attention as does any politician for the obvious reasons- it helps increase name recognition and win votes. Originally Posted by Axiom my views are being accepted by more and more people everyday , as the uninforming msm collapses . i suggest you look at the scientific papers presented by prof. s .jones. Pure speculation, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter unless you can show valid proof. Most academics still do not accept many of his absurd ideas. There are billions of people out there- some will surely give in to your pandering. Besides, I thought the concept of a lot of people believing something means nothing to you since you think most people live under an umbrella of conspiracies that they don't know about anyway. Originally Posted by Axiom pertaining to these competing states as opposed to the NAFTA/NAU agenda Read "Tragedy & Hope" C.Quigley . What do the CFR &TRI LAT COMM do ? I have read about NAFTA (for the record I oppose it) as well as the EU, etc. I do not think it is a world conspiracy though. Originally Posted by Axiom except im saying it because , you appear completely uninformed about the globalisation agenda (which is everywhere , check out the number of tertiary academic courses in globalisation ) , the words of kissinger ( who uses the term"global governance") , the aims of Club of Rome ( from their own papers) , z brzinski ( the grand chessboard) . the rise of the EU and other geo-trade/govt blocks . see my "new world order" thread. and guess where i heard about this : ECB: Global governance today , yep , the most informing source on the planet - ALEX JONES ! Sure there is a lot of writing on the matter and I have seen some of it. That does not prove the claim though. Give some concrete evidence and we'll talk. Originally Posted by Axiom so what was kissinger talking about when he used the term "global governance" ? and what did bushes,blair,brown etc mean by "new world order" what did g brown mean by "the need for a world constitution for the global financial systems" ? Again, a lot of what leaders have said has been taken out of context. Sure there are some who believe or want a one world government, but I do not see the modern states pushing that in policy right now. Originally Posted by Axiom you bet ! they love globalisation ! China is the U.N's model state ! but its a step by step process , the history of the EU gives you a good idea how this forms . Currently we are in the phase of larger free range serf farming management blocks being set up , and USA being destroyed by design , so as to help usher in further steps towards this global governance . You realize that a more entangled Europe is completely different than one world government right? Ever think that the EU was done as a way to strengthen European power against the US, China, or whoever as opposed to the start of combining everyone into one state? Originally Posted by Axiom WATCH Short on time right now, will check it out later.