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**Hayek** · 05-03-2010, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Axiom

Thank you for introducing this classic example of brainwashed thinking . Brainwashed thinking is very easy to identify . It involves the complete non addressing of the point in such an extraordinary manner , that brainwashing is the only known model that explains it .

ok, here's the break down for you ,

NAMING 10 organizations/leaders/movements IS NOT THE SAME AS NAMING 10 OBVIOUSLY NEWS WORTHY STORIES THAT GO LARGELY UN -REPORTED !

Being "newsworthy" is a matter of opinion. I do not think all of those things are newsworthy because I think some of them are hoaxes (including some of the 6 I know of.)

Originally Posted by Axiom

Well bravo , thats my standpoint too .
but i have been studying the media/consensus reality nexus full time for the last 7 yrs .

What's your point with the 7 years thing? There are people that have been studying the news media their entire lives who would disagree with you. I am not saying that makes them necessarily right, but that the 7 years is just irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Axiom

i invite you to be specific , i would be only to happy to respond .

From 9-11 to the New World Order conspiracies, they are littered with false assumptions and fake reporting. Just Google Alex Jones' name and you are bound to find a lot of evidence. Even in his public relations, etc. it becomes clear that he is a liar and a fraud. I will find some links for you later if you want some.

Originally Posted by Axiom

ron paul is politico savvy , he knows what ppl like you would say if he was overtly pro a new 9/11 investigation !
Again please be specific .

You will probably be surprised to know that I am a Ron Paul supporter and Campaign for Liberty guy. He believes in the idea of blowback and his whole foreign policy approach is based on anti-war values. Read his books, he clearly does not believe Jones' b.s. Taking it back further, look at the idealogy and the people he surrounded himself with- Rothbard, etc. and you will see that they have no room for such nonsense.

I really don't know where Alex Jones' supporters got this idea that Paul believes his b.s.- I am guessing just because Jones said he supports Paul that you all followed blindly as you do in the videos. As a Paul supporter and someone who loves this country, I really wish Jones had picked another candidate to support- the conspiracy theorists only hurt the cause.

Originally Posted by Axiom

which we have provided by the mountain load , and you provide zip , zero ,nothing (see above 2 points to emphasise this point)

If you truly did provide adequate evidence, your views would be accepted by many more. You can deny it as long as you want and live in this bubble you have created yourself, but saying you are right over and over again doesn't make you right. (and if you genuinely think you have proved it, I suggest you look at the scientific method and how scientific papers must be presented in order to be accepted as truth.

Originally Posted by Axiom

excuse me,but what exactly have you read ?

What exactly do you mean? What books have I read and pertaining to what topic?

Originally Posted by Axiom

yep, you're not thinking , in an informed manner

Weak argument, I can say the same about you.

Originally Posted by Axiom

perhaps you can tell me what the "new world order" is, as referred to by the following , blair , bushes , brown ,w.clinton , vincente fox ??

The New World Order has been brought up time and time again over the last few decades by conspiracy theorists, trying to prove themselves right. They take words that politicians say and twist them to show that what they said was right before (without any proof) is in fact right. That is your way of showing something is true, when in reality that sort of "proof" would be laughed at in the scientific community or in a court of law. What Bush, etc. said of the New World Order was often completely different than what conspiracy theorists have said and in reality, no such world-wide conspiracy even exists. You really think China, India, Brazil, etc. are collaborating with the US and Europe to become one?

05-03-2010, 04:59 AM	#370 (permalink)
Hayek Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 93	Originally Posted by Axiom Thank you for introducing this classic example of brainwashed thinking . Brainwashed thinking is very easy to identify . It involves the complete non addressing of the point in such an extraordinary manner , that brainwashing is the only known model that explains it . ok, here's the break down for you , NAMING 10 organizations/leaders/movements IS NOT THE SAME AS NAMING 10 OBVIOUSLY NEWS WORTHY STORIES THAT GO LARGELY UN -REPORTED ! Being "newsworthy" is a matter of opinion. I do not think all of those things are newsworthy because I think some of them are hoaxes (including some of the 6 I know of.) Originally Posted by Axiom Well bravo , thats my standpoint too . but i have been studying the media/consensus reality nexus full time for the last 7 yrs . What's your point with the 7 years thing? There are people that have been studying the news media their entire lives who would disagree with you. I am not saying that makes them necessarily right, but that the 7 years is just irrelevant. Originally Posted by Axiom i invite you to be specific , i would be only to happy to respond . From 9-11 to the New World Order conspiracies, they are littered with false assumptions and fake reporting. Just Google Alex Jones' name and you are bound to find a lot of evidence. Even in his public relations, etc. it becomes clear that he is a liar and a fraud. I will find some links for you later if you want some. Originally Posted by Axiom ron paul is politico savvy , he knows what ppl like you would say if he was overtly pro a new 9/11 investigation ! Again please be specific . You will probably be surprised to know that I am a Ron Paul supporter and Campaign for Liberty guy. He believes in the idea of blowback and his whole foreign policy approach is based on anti-war values. Read his books, he clearly does not believe Jones' b.s. Taking it back further, look at the idealogy and the people he surrounded himself with- Rothbard, etc. and you will see that they have no room for such nonsense. I really don't know where Alex Jones' supporters got this idea that Paul believes his b.s.- I am guessing just because Jones said he supports Paul that you all followed blindly as you do in the videos. As a Paul supporter and someone who loves this country, I really wish Jones had picked another candidate to support- the conspiracy theorists only hurt the cause. Originally Posted by Axiom which we have provided by the mountain load , and you provide zip , zero ,nothing (see above 2 points to emphasise this point) If you truly did provide adequate evidence, your views would be accepted by many more. You can deny it as long as you want and live in this bubble you have created yourself, but saying you are right over and over again doesn't make you right. (and if you genuinely think you have proved it, I suggest you look at the scientific method and how scientific papers must be presented in order to be accepted as truth. Originally Posted by Axiom excuse me,but what exactly have you read ? What exactly do you mean? What books have I read and pertaining to what topic? Originally Posted by Axiom yep, you're not thinking , in an informed manner Weak argument, I can say the same about you. Originally Posted by Axiom perhaps you can tell me what the "new world order" is, as referred to by the following , blair , bushes , brown ,w.clinton , vincente fox ?? The New World Order has been brought up time and time again over the last few decades by conspiracy theorists, trying to prove themselves right. They take words that politicians say and twist them to show that what they said was right before (without any proof) is in fact right. That is your way of showing something is true, when in reality that sort of "proof" would be laughed at in the scientific community or in a court of law. What Bush, etc. said of the New World Order was often completely different than what conspiracy theorists have said and in reality, no such world-wide conspiracy even exists. You really think China, India, Brazil, etc. are collaborating with the US and Europe to become one?