Originally Posted by Hayek
I am sure I can name 10 organizations/leaders/movements that you do not know either. That does not mean I am uninformed, but just that I am no omniscient.
Thank you for introducing this classic example of brainwashed thinking . Brainwashed thinking is very easy to identify . It involves the complete non addressing of the point in such an extraordinary manner , that brainwashing is the only known model that explains it .
ok, here's the break down for you ,
NAMING 10 organizations/leaders/movements IS NOT THE SAME AS NAMING 10 OBVIOUSLY NEWS WORTHY STORIES THAT GO LARGELY UN -REPORTED !
Originally Posted by Hayek
And of course Alex Jones should be entitled to make a profit; I am just saying that his followers should be more wary. And trust me, I am not MSM fan either- I take all reporting with a grain of salt.
Well bravo , thats my standpoint too .
but i have been studying the media/consensus reality nexus full time for the last 7 yrs .
Originally Posted by Hayek
I would beg to differ. Some of Alex Jones' theories are so far-fetched that one might thing they were from a story book. A lot of the "proof" he gives isn't real proof but just speculation and often relies on the opposition proving a negative, when in reality the burden of proof is on him and his organization.
i invite you to be specific , i would be only to happy to respond .
Originally Posted by Hayek
The proof isn't there to support his ideas. Furthermore, the proof is there against his ideas. Even logically-thinking, the 9-11 attacks were very in-line with virtually every other suicide attack attempt since the 80s. Robert Pape had a great piece on that. (By the way, Ron Paul has actually praised him for that work and on a side note, Paul does not believe the conspiracy b.s. that Alex Jones' supporters want him to believe.)
ron paul is politico savvy , he knows what ppl like you would say if he was overtly pro a new 9/11 investigation !
Again please be specific .
Originally Posted by Hayek
There are more conflicting interests among these people that stop them from collaborating in that way. Again, the burden of proof lies with those who claim these secret things exist.
which we have provided by the mountain load , and you provide zip , zero ,nothing (see above 2 points to emphasise this point)
Originally Posted by Hayek
a) Definitely doubt that. There is a clear power struggle among states, not a conspiracy among those states to play out a storyboard and suppress the lower classes./movements
excuse me,but what exactly have you read ?
Originally Posted by Hayek
b) Do I doubt it's been hidden? No, because I don't think it exists. Sure there might be a handful of people trying to accomplish such things, but I do not think it has been done or ever will.
yep, you're not thinking , in an informed manner
perhaps you can tell me what the "new world order" is, as referred to by the following , blair , bushes , brown ,w.clinton , vincente fox ??