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**MOZ** · 03-13-2010, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Z&MLoh

It is interesting that Victoria has not hosted the Australian Juniors since 2005. In fact, Victoria has only hosted this tournament twice (2000, 2005) as far as Ozbase records go.
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Is this an "imbalance of the natural order" in the light that Victoria has the largest group (32%) of top age-group players in the March 2010 ACF ratings? You be the judge....
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The decision-making criteria employed in the tournament allocation procedure by the ACF is unlikely to be "the natural order" of things, as I believe you are suggesting..

It is more instructive to look deeper through to the bid process to find the rationale for decisions.

Bid #1 was successful and was not in the Melbourne Metro (in fact it was at Churchill) which gave ample room for 'outside of venue' opportunities.

Bid #2 was unsuccessful by the GURU at Mt Buller. Essentially the same bid was then cloned by another privateer, this privateer with closer connections to the ACF Executive. The cloned bid was given the tick of approval.

Bid #3 was unsuccessful; by a Melbourne Junior Club (see bid #1) based on the Box Hill Town Hall venue.

The following year the GURU tried to bridge the connection to the ACF but failed to gain an office-bearer position. Therefore there was no bid from him in that year.

Bid #4 was unsuccessful. It had a Melbourne Metro venue.

Bid #5 by the Guru recently (Jan. 2010) was unsuccessful.

On the basis of this 'analysis', I believe your 'real issue', ...an Aus. Juniors in Metro Melbourne, has not happened as yet

03-13-2010, 08:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Z&MLoh It is interesting that Victoria has not hosted the Australian Juniors since 2005. In fact, Victoria has only hosted this tournament twice (2000, 2005) as far as Ozbase records go. Code: .. Is this an "imbalance of the natural order" in the light that Victoria has the largest group (32%) of top age-group players in the March 2010 ACF ratings? You be the judge.... Code: .. The decision-making criteria employed in the tournament allocation procedure by the ACF is unlikely to be "the natural order" of things, as I believe you are suggesting.. It is more instructive to look deeper through to the bid process to find the rationale for decisions. Bid #1 was successful and was not in the Melbourne Metro (in fact it was at Churchill) which gave ample room for 'outside of venue' opportunities. Bid #2 was unsuccessful by the GURU at Mt Buller. Essentially the same bid was then cloned by another privateer, this privateer with closer connections to the ACF Executive. The cloned bid was given the tick of approval. Bid #3 was unsuccessful; by a Melbourne Junior Club (see bid #1) based on the Box Hill Town Hall venue. The following year the GURU tried to bridge the connection to the ACF but failed to gain an office-bearer position. Therefore there was no bid from him in that year. Bid #4 was unsuccessful. It had a Melbourne Metro venue. Bid #5 by the Guru recently (Jan. 2010) was unsuccessful. On the basis of this 'analysis', I believe your 'real issue', ...an Aus. Juniors in Metro Melbourne, has not happened as yet __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.