Originally Posted by Axiom
well done , you managed to find the achilles heal of o'neill , neatly avoiding everything else , nice work.
"only as strong as it's weakest link" you say ?
Everytime you give me an American author talking about the dangers of collective action I picture a redneck patriot, with dated views , pushing the old paranoid cold war communist trip with a slight mixture of 50's nostalgia for the romantic American past that accelerated consumerism.
Originally Posted by Axiom
well, lets investigate this link further ..... please tell us what you know of the club of rome , history of eugenics , the phenomenon of the human self hating brainwashed zombie greenazis , and agenda 21..
Why don't you explain how Turner is a collectivist? Because that claim makes absolutely no sense.
1) The club of Rome is hardly a secret society.
2) History has completely discredited eugenics.
3) There is no brainwashed self hating greenie movement because that is a charge of essentialism placed on others by another group of people who are apparently claiming to be libertarians and yet label
ALL "GREENIES" brainwashed and self hating. I mean really this sort of stuff is comical. The idea that all greenies believe in Neo Malthusian human population theory is nonsene.
I have studied a fair bit of Green political philosophy and I can tell you that one of the most basic divides between people interested in this stuff is anthropocentricism in relation to the environment. Whilst the second most basic divide is between individual and collective land ownership.
For the record, those that believe in collective ownership of land, tend to believe that humans should be situated within the equation, ie not excluded. Whilst libertarian private ownership people tend to want to protect the environment against humans, especially the poor.
cheers,