Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos
Of course you must actually voice the claim but it does not require the arbiter. The claim can be made directly to the opponent.
I have seen it happen many times.
1) Player A makes a move that thats the position for the third time.
2) Player B before touching a piece claims the triple rep.
3) Player A & B shake hands and sign their scoresheets and take them to the officials table and pass them to the arbiter.
Only if Player A does not accept the claim is correct or believes that player B did not follow the correct procedure does the arbiter need to get involved.
In the above scenario if Player A believes that Player B's claim is incorrect or not done in the correct manner then he should inform the player of that fact and then either player A or Player B could stop the clock and summon the arbiter.
It is quite clear in the circumstances that Ivanov could legally claim triple rep after your 63rd move directly to you in accordance with Article 9.2b.
You should have just acknowledged that his triple rep claim was valid.
It appears that your lack of knowledge of the rules led you to reject his claim believing that he could not make that claim since you made the last move or that his claim had to go via the arbiter. Both of these beliefs on your part are wrong.
What a crock!
All you are discribing is an agreed draw.
In your ad hoc example, Player A is under no obligation to do anything! Haha
Nevertheless, Ivanov never even reached step 2.
When someone says "Draw" it can mean absolutely anything.
The problem with you Gletsos is that it still hasn't dawned on you that
Ivanov never claimed triple repetition.
Furthermore, even if he had I could have simply ignored him. A player, especially one in time trouble, is under no obligation to prove his opponents draw claim. That is the job of the arbiter!
I have highlighted that crap you posted in bold writing. It is wrong. Please take some time to think about why it is complete nonsense.
cheers,